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Justaname, Thanks for your response. Let me respond with a little more detail to this text. First, I maintain that this text is in reference to the crowd that is following Jesus in contrast to those who rejected Jesus. Remember, this text is directly connected to the healing of the blind man...

Well, I personally do not separate the two. I think both are described as "tongues" and I dont see anything that would suggest what Paul is describing in 1 Cor. 14 is any different from what we see taking place in Acts. I agree the NT is truth :). Not even the cessationist would argue...

Justaname, I only have about 5 minutes so I will be brief but will respond more later. Thanks for your reply. First, let me address the context of the passages in John you cite. Those passages are in reference to the crowds that chose to follow Jesus in opposition to the religious leaders...

I read through the verses. I agree that they all speak of various gifts that were in operation in the church. But I dont see a verse that teaches that a person must expect or believe that a gift exists in order for them to receive it. Cornelius had no notion of the gift of tongues (nor did...

I agree. There is an event of salvation and Jesus is salvation. When I come to know Jesus, I come to know my Savior and salvation (and that salvation will be realized on the Day of the Lord when judgment falls). When I am "in Christ" and he is in me, I am saved. As Paul puts it, "Christ in...

Thanks for responding, Stan. I am not saying I disagree with your statements, but my follow-up questions to you are.... Where do we find in the NT that someone should expect or seek the Holy Spirit to move in a miraculous way in order for Him to do so? I do not see any accounts in Acts or the...

In my opinion, much of the problem here is the definition of salvation. Salvation is a person, not primarily an event. Jesus told Mary and Martha, "I am the resurrection and the life." The resurrection is not merely an event, but a person. The same is true of salvation. A person can "lose"...

Do you mean homosexual? Homophobic is the fear of homosexuals....homo (same) phobic (from phobia, meaning fear). So are you saying God will judge those who oppose or are fearful of homosexuality or were you trying to say God will judge those who practice it? Just seeking clarification.

Hey guys, This is an important discussion and I want to encourage you all to talk about these issues. I have created a thread that is specifically focused on this topic so the conversation can carry on there. Remember, please keep it civil and focused on the doctrines and Scriptures rather...

In order to keep threads on topic, I have created this thread to help channel a discussion on this subject matter. This thread will explore the role of miraculous gifts in the life of the New Testament church and discuss/debate issues such as: 1. Is the Holy Spirit still giving people these...

Ok, I have a few minutes so I will try to address a few of your points. Again, Augustine did not create a break from Chiliasts as such a break already existed. I took an entire seminary course on this so I am pretty familiar with the development of early Christian doctrine. Symbolism and...

I never said that following the revealed Word meant following weekly traditions. The reason for gathering in church is to be reminded of the revealed Word and live it out in our daily lives...not as the fulfillment of the Word's requirements in our lives. We gather to encourage one another in...

Hey Oz, I do agree with you that in the west we have a tendency to be intellectual about everything and not rely or seek God to move in those ways. I would not be surprised if this resulted in a lack of the Spirit's moving in these ways. At the same time, I have been around some churches and...

I dont mind if you bring up a new topic or even take us down an occasional rabbit hole. I do it all the time. I dont doubt I did with blessedhope. However, I just wanted to make it clear that I was not the one who brought up the origins of Amillennialism as a means of proving my view is more...

Oz, I would not discount the miraculous today. I did not intend to say that miracles cannot happen nor that a Christian could not have a miraculous gift. I was simply trying to underline the notion that we are not to be sign-seekers or be people who strive to validate their beliefs with...

I dont have much time so I will just respond to your final comment for now, primariliy because I take great care in presenting a logical argument based on what you are presenting me with and you are misrepresenting me and our discussion thus far... This is just simply untrue. Let me walk you...

So you believe the second coming inaugurates the millennium and there is no such thing as the disappearance of the church during a 7 year Great Tribulation? Christianity Today is not a magazine that is not representative of all Christians worldwide. It's focus is primarily Protestant...

Oz, I think we are saying the exact same thing. I am in complete agreement with the authors you quoted. It was not Paul. Paul always speaks of himself as an Apostle and one who was entrusted the Gospel that he received directly from the Lord himself. The author of Hebrews tells us that they...

Yes, there are a lot of theories. Parts of it sounds like Paul, and Luke was certainly around Paul a lot. I am sure some texual critics have done a lot of work in comparing word use and grammar between Luke/Acts and Hebrews. I havent read much on this so I dont know. I know some early church...

This discussion reminds me of JRR Tolkien's theology in The Lord of the Rings: Of all the kings, warriors and "big folk," it is the simple, unwise, small and peaceful hobbits that are the champions of the story. They end up being the only ones who can resist the temptation of the ring and as...