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  1. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No it was not, and the final utter destruction has not happened yet either. Everlasting righteousness is not here yet on earth or Israel either, notice? That final seven years is well spoken about and clearly noted in months and days and years. There is no excuse for being confused or utterly...
  2. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    There is no 'other' anything needed. The word used for week means years as I showed in the definition.
  3. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The final destruction/consummation did not happen yet, let alone at Pentecost. That did bot bring in everlasting righteousness to Israel or earth. Of course there is. Thing do not wrap up till after that man of sin comes in the end, and Jesus returns after that.
  4. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Look up the word translated as week. Brown-Driver-Briggs' 1) seven, period of seven (days or years), heptad, week 1a) period of seven days, a week 1a1) Feast of Weeks 1b) heptad, seven (of years) Strong's Properly passive participle of H7650 as a denominative of H7651; literally sevened...
  5. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That is when he sets up the abomination of desolation. Right in the middle of the week. We are also given the months days and years. We know that there is a covenant broken and when it gets broken. No possibility that it is any other time but at the end of the world.
  6. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The abomination is placed by the ruler in the last seven years. No relation to 70AD. Since the final government is the new Roman empire (ten toes) consisting of the same areas the old one had largely, we would say that the armies that came in 70AD were the people of the prince. One reason is...
  7. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why are you telling me this? Obviously Jesus is the Messiah. Except that is rubbish, of course there is. Jesus made no covenant for seven years and broke it. Jesus will not come except that man of sin be revealed first. The first coming. The years pointed exactly to the life of Jesus. No...
  8. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So what is the summary of your position?
  9. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Now you want to grasp at straws of how words are used more than once for different things in the bible? You cab rule out the covenant God made with Abraham and others and this verse as well as being the covenant in the end that lasts seven years and is broken in the midst. His covenant is never...
  10. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Nothing bothered me, I guess I'm fortunate.
  11. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I agree. However there may be more in the details than we think. For example will all people on earth at that time be truly ungodly and wicked? Will there be people or children that maybe were confused and victims of their governments? Personally I suspect there will be many people allowed in to...
  12. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, nothing like that. There is no possibility of inserting 70 AD into that. There was no AntiChrist then, no seven year covenant, no tribulation etc etc. Jesus does all this. Not all at once. He reconciled man to God. That was done when He was here and died for us. He did not bring in...
  13. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Messiah was not the prince of the covenant. Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the...
  14. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Romans did come and destroy. They were not God's people. They were the people of that evil prince that is still to come one day. That fourth beast is the same beast that the final ten toes come from.
  15. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Jesus Himself will destroy the wicked. That is news? The people of Jesus are along for the ride. They later help Him rule. At no time did the people of Jesus destroy the temple, that is petulant insanity.
  16. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Your opinion is noted. Christians think it is a wonderful time that is coming. Is Jerusalem on Mars? The mount of Olives on Pluto? The nations on Jupiter? Since He rules earth, what would you call it? When they die, even at 1000 years old that is human. Insane babble. To man a day is a...
  17. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I disagree. Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark...
  18. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That is after the 1000 years. That is when Jesus returns with us. Different age. He returns right after the tribulation. I guess we would call that an age also. That is at the end of the day of the Lord, after the millennium. It is clear the new heavne are after the thousand years. Using...
  19. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Once again, random blather. Remember, posters, if you are Jehovah Witnesses please identify yourselves here.