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. Jesus compares the heavens shaking to a tree shaken of it's leaves Etc. You thought God lived where the stars are?? Except you invented that whole of cloth. The verse actually tells us there is a temple in heaven that contains the ark.

When He rules, we will also. Satan will be bound. Many people will be judged. The tribulation will be over and the AntiChrist disposed of..etc etc. There is no possibility any of that has already happened.

No. The stars will all fall as from a tree that is shaken. God's kingdom will also 'fall' to earth in a way because He is coming here to live forever. Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind...

No, sorry. As for Heb 12:26 it says this Hebrews 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. I think I pointed out something like that God can shake anything He likes. That is not a quote. The issue at...

The verse says a temple in heaven had the ark. Your delusions really don't matter.

True. The foolishness of God is not claiming that He and His saints have been ruling planet earth for 1000 years already. That's on you.

No.

That does not say God cannot do anything. In this case it is prophesy about how the earth and heavens will be affected in the end.

False. No connection. That is delusional. That does not say He rules earth and has nothing whatsoever to do with when He return with His saints to rule this earth with a rod of iron.

God can shake anything He likes.

So we can add no actual voices, no actual lightening, no actual shaking, to your no actual temple or ark I guess for the grand slam in foolishness.

That truly is foolishness.

Being forgiven does not make on ruler of the planet at the moment. In fact most of the rulers are against God more and more. Any confusion is on you.

The nations will be ruled not the 'churches'. Believers will be ruling with Him

Just to be clear are you suggesting that if the time from when Jesus returns to rule till the end of the millennium is a thousand years and 2 months, that means the bible is wrong?

Submitting to Christ has nothing at all to do with being delusional and thinking Jesus and us are reigning the earth now with a rod of iron. That is foolishness and it is a shame to the family of God for people to say such things.

If the second part of that verse is exclusively about the future after Jesus returns to earth, then obviously the second part of that verse applies very well also to earth.

The relationship is unknown, the location is known, and I have no idea why rumbling in a temple in heaven is thought of as some sort of a disaster to you. If there is also an application to earth, well then of course for the folks on earth that is disaster. We do not know if the second part of...

Since I said we do not know about the lightning and voices etc in the second part of Rev 11:19 there is no mistake on my end. The mistake lies in you claiming that there is not really a temple in heaven that really contains the real ark. Period. Not sure why you pretend.

No Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. That is not the second coming. That is a scene away from earth in heaven. The...