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I agree. Demons do not accept Christ's sacrifice. They can't, because it's not for them. They don't trust in God, they only believe because they have no other choice. We must trust in his sacrifice to save us. Big difference. But our work merits nothing.

I don't see it that way. I see Pence as the voice of reason.

Not really. I think one can be Catholic and saved in spite of some of their false teachings. To me a cult would be a sect that denies Jesus' divinity.

The church isn't a particular sect. Jesus is the truth and the life, not any denomination.

Of course... And this is basic protestant doctrine, that the Faithful must keep the faith. Not that works save him but he must not quit believing. We cannot reject his gift, but we also cannot earn it by works.

I didn't say the Catholics taught it was necessary I said they did such things... It's a matter of fact.

Wow, talk about warping scriptures! "But turning and seeing her, Jesus said, Daughter, be comforted; your faith has saved you. And the woman was saved from that hour." "And he said to her: Daughter, your faith has saved you; go in peace, and be cured of your plague." And Jesus said to him...

All organizations outside God are evil in some sense. I agree that they are stifling freedom. I don't know what I can do about that.

Says you.

Or maybe Mike pence followed his conscience on the matter...

Of course. We all believe what we are personally shown, don't we? If God speaks to me personally about something, that's way more convincing than someone on the internet telling me such and such.

So we are all in a cult? I don't think so. And I never said the Catholic Church was a cult, I said cults do that.

The fact is, my Dad was a believer long before he was ever baptized. I believe what God shows me personally above man made doctrine.

You are " cherry picking" parts of verses, carving up the Word to make your doctrine work. Quote the whole verses, not a few words of them... That's what cults do.

"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. Amen "(Matthew 28:19-20). We have here a...

What are you quoting from?

I'm not a baptism fanatic, so I'm not going to argue about the method. I've been to churches that overemphasize it. Over emphasizing any act as contributing to salvation is dangerous and wrong. My own father was baptized late in life by sprinkling, the wesleyan methodist church allows that. I...

Coming up out of the water sounds like immersion to me. Does it matter? Probably not because the water doesn't save anyway. But I think you're grasping at straws, trying to get sprinkling from scripture.

No, they aren't. You complicate what isn't complicated.

The only references we have in scripture are to immersion. "When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying...