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That is not my distinction, but the distinction made by Christ. The problem is that you seem to be equating the soul with the spirit--which Christ does not do, but just the opposite. To the contrary, the scriptures combine the flesh with the soul, but neither with the spirit, as one must be...

No--Jesus clearly made the distinction that all who are born of the flesh are not born of the spirit of God, and must therefore also be born again. Your statement makes Him a liar.

I believe I just answered this. No, but the flesh being created in the image of God is, unlike God is flesh, but having a soul, which is the ability to choose to sin or not, which is the ability to choose life or death. And yet the flesh is born with this nature, not separate, but joined...

First, before going on: Don't misunderstand--if I do not quote chapter and verse, it is not because I am not quoting scripture or paraphrasing the scripture. Such a practice should mean nothing to those who know the scriptures, which practice was not ever used during the times the scriptures...

More or less. Man is created "a little lower than the angels"...meaning, not of the spirit of God. Which is not to say that man is without a soul, but it would appear that this is the point of confusion. Jesus clarified, saying, that we need to be "born of water and and of the spirit"...with...

Here is that counterpoint--which I did give: If you need or would like chapter and verse...just say so.

Okay, these things very much agree. There is perhaps one clarification that should be made: That Revelation 20:5 refers to both Israel (who do not live again until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled), and also to the "other sheep" who are "alive" by the spirit of God "and remain" until...

How is stating the reason that the church leadership has come to be vilified, diverging from the Original Post? (Rhetorical) It is not.

Why then push it all off, since it is written that what was and would be, would shortly come to pass? He speaks as things then, and future, all shortly coming to pass--not all future. Which makes you wrong on two out of three times clearly stated. This is that lie that causes strong delusion...

And the "lie" causing "strong delusion" was and is to read these words and [still] call them "future", when Jesus clearly stated that they would "shortly come to pass."

Sorry to offend, but not a cheap shot--perhaps a brutally honest one. But we have seen this before, and it is no cheap shot to Israel either. Paul explained that their downfall was for our benefit--so no, I am not even being critical, but warning that strong delusion was foretold of our time...

True. The problem I was referring to is rather that of discounting truth from God "here a little, there a little"--the voice of one crying in the wilderness, due to the overwhelming amount of untruth.

Unfortunately, this is the result stemming from that "evil generation" of the time of Christ, allowed by God for "believing a lie" about the timing of events, the cause of "strong delusion."

That is a great question, easy to assume the results of with a cross section of people, and I too join you in your frustration. But break up that cross section into groups of like persons, and it would be the same until you came to that group the scriptures refer to as "the prophets of God."...

Jesus said "has come", you say "had not come." I would say that puts you in accord with Israel (who crucified Him). But that is the common misunderstanding...we should talk about it.

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.

You are not making sense. I said those who are not in Christ are not born again--which is the same as saying those who are in Christ, are born again...and you said those in Christ are born again. Which is not to disagree, but to agree, as we are saying the same thing.

The scriptures define the two folds that Christ must bring (the house of Israel and the other sheep) as "first the Jew and then the Greek." But you speak of the end result of all including those grafted in...that's fine. Nonetheless, in the order presented in the scriptures, Israel are "the dead...

"Born again"...having "no oil?" No--biblically "oil" refers to "the root and fatness of the olive tree', which is Christ. Hosea 14:6 / Psalms 52:8 / Romans 11:17 That is, the Light of the Gospel of Christ Jesus. Those who are not already grafted in--in Christ...are not born again.

And here they are: Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all...