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  1. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The Church will be raptured before the seals are opened. The seals are the 70th week of Daniel which contains the great tribulation which is the 5th seal. Then Jesus returns again at the 6th seal for the gathering from heaven and earth. Jesus remains in the cloud. Then the wrath of God begins...
  2. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Ok. The Church, meaning mostly Gentiles at this time, will not go through the tribulation of those days, the Great Tribulation
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The Church is in heaven before the seals are opened. The seals are the final week of years when God deals with Israel. Jacobs trouble is over when the tribulation (5th seal) is over. Then Jesus returns at the 6th seal for the harvest. Then wrath begins after the 7th seal is opened and the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No. Jacob's trouble is the 1st 5 seals and ends with Jesus coming immediately after the tribulation at the 6th seal. There are so many ways to prove that the trumpets are Gods wrath, how can you miss them all. Here's one. Jesus comes at the 6th seal for the gathering from heaven and earth...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Matthew 7:16.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    When the name calling happens it is the fruit of defeat. It always ends the same.
  7. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You call a child of the King a loser. Much to learn you have.
  8. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I think I answered your questions, you just didn't like the answers. Just like Covenantee.
  9. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The Word says that we can escape all these thing..........and stand before the Son of man. I believe the Word Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. The seed of the...
  10. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Right. And you think you have replaced Israel.
  11. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I think the ignorance of your questions have been addressed.
  12. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Right. I keep forgetting that the blind see everything.
  13. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Well one thing I don't get, is why you claim you have replaced Israel but don't want to tie replacement theology to your doctrine. When you look up replacement theology on the net it is obviously your doctrine.
  14. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Jacob is Israel and not the Gentiles
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Please feel free to post those scriptures that show the Church going through the great tribulation. Revelation 11 shows that the wrath of God is over and Christ has set up His kingdom on earth. It is the time of judgement.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    69 weeks have occurred before Messiah was cut off. Were these 69 weeks happening to the people of Daniel? 69 weeks have happened. The 70th week will happen after the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. And it will. Who did the 69 weeks that have already occurred point to? When the fullness of...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I got it. You think you have replaced Israel. This is why you think the 144,000 a specific number of 1st fruits from the 12 tribes is the Church. There are 5 wise that are watching and ready and five foolish that are not.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Yeah and yet......................... Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And yet your doctrine believes that...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I see you don't understand the difference between Luke 21 and Matthew 24.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    That's simple enough. Daniel 9 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to...