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  1. FHII

    Explanation of the warning in Heb.6:1-8

    I don't mean to make a big deal out of this, because it is a small part of a much greater overall point, and really doesn't change anything. But the text (Acts 21:27-31) doesn't indicate believing Jews caused the uproar. These were Jews from Asia (Turkey). They caused an uproar and all of...
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    The proof of OSAS

    While I believe in predestination and OSAS.... Ihave to ask a question: What good is that knowledge that it exists? God has written 66 books that tell us what we must do. Despite all our arguing over doctrine, God has provided the answer. If we do them, we're in the clear... If not, well...
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    Pope wants to change the Lord's Prayer

    It makes no difference. If you want to say God tests us but does not tempt us, you will get nothing more than an eye roll from me and a, "yea... Sure". Your arguement is nothing more than blaming a translation. Your question as to why Jesus needed to be led by the spirit is more intriuging...
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    Pope wants to change the Lord's Prayer

    I edited your pst in my quote because whats in bold is the only thing that makes your point even somewhat valid. God is all those things and I think you realize that. Yet he has his reasons and his reasons are above ours. No. He doesn't want us to be that way. Every single thing you listed...
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    Pope wants to change the Lord's Prayer

    Yet the Bible says "tempt". That's the KJV. I won't deny that some other versions may say different. Not into that game. So do you feel better if Mat 6 says, "Don't test us with tempation?" I somwhow think the Pope would run from that too. Absolutely. But it was the spirit who led him...
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    Pope wants to change the Lord's Prayer

    Marymog: I believe he can and I have provided scripural evidence he did. I also believe he delivers us from tempation if we pray for it, but the Pope took that part of the prayer out! "Lead us not into tempation." thats the part of the prayer that protects us. Technically soeaking, this...
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    Pope wants to change the Lord's Prayer

    Aspen: So what have I said that is not true about God? He is all those things but as I noted he is also love. He is also lomg suffering and forgiving. He is also "good" and even the things we say are bad are good. Furthermore, my point is that yes... God can and may tempt you and lead you...
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    Pope wants to change the Lord's Prayer

    I have provided two verses which show that God has tempted and leads into tempation. He tempted Abraham and the spirit led Jesus to be tempted. What can be done with those verses other than trying to unexplain them? I see this as a problem because it tries to re explain God. People think God...
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    OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION

    Damn folks! You are so brutal on each other. It's a tough decision, but frankly I don't want any part of it. No one should be a racist or a bigot and no one should be charged with such. No one should be insulted and no one should insult. Yet, so many here have been guilty and deny it. Some...
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    Why did God need to give us free will, or did He need to? Do we really have it?

    I don't attack or insult anyone's character. I don't insult anyone's Church or Pastor. I will attack doctrines and comment on history. I do so carefully as to not put it on the person but the doctrine, philosophy or idea. In another post you called me double minded. I let that slide...
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    Why did God need to give us free will, or did He need to? Do we really have it?

    No you are on your own. I am not going to bother with such things.
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    Why did God need to give us free will, or did He need to? Do we really have it?

    Just because you managed to put a square peg in a round hole don't mean it was supposed to go there. And no. It doesn't fit. Two men are not one man.
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    Why did God need to give us free will, or did He need to? Do we really have it?

    I never said Satan was down here having sex and producing children... You put that on the table. Not me. And if its just an analogy, so are the children of God. We aren't really the children of God... Its just an analogy. I attribute all life to God. He created Satan, his angels and his...
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    Blood washed question

    It still represents life, Aspen. Wish I could share the 3 or 4 Bible verses that say the life is in the blood, but I can't. I could then talk biologically about blood and bore you all to tears. But at least it would be science proving God is right. But anyway... The perception is that...
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    Blood washed question

    Too many horror movies give blood a bad name. When we see blood we think violence, injury or death. Rightly so. Because if we see it, then its not were its supposed to be: inside the body. Its too bad you don't want or need a Bible verse. I had a good one to share.
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    Why did God need to give us free will, or did He need to? Do we really have it?

    I believe that two men in the field means there were two men in the field. I am a firm believer in the outward man and the inward man... But that was Paul's teaching. Yes Jesus gave it to him. But Jesus only touched on the idea in his ministry. This wasn't where he did so. Jesus said...
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    Why did God need to give us free will, or did He need to? Do we really have it?

    Satan does have chilfren just as God has children. The children of God are not beliefs, are they? If you are saying the tares and the children of the devil are beliefs, then it must be so for the wheat and the Children of the kingdom. And yes... Subscribe. I do not subscribe to your point of...
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    Abraham was not saved by faith alone

    I agree. But the mention of Abraham in Romans 4 isn't about him leaving Ur or even splitting from Lot. Its about he and his wife giving conceiving and giving birth to Isaac. The only work Abraham had to do was... Well... You know. Abraham and Sarah actually tried to help God, as if he...
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    Why did God need to give us free will, or did He need to? Do we really have it?

    I don't mean it to be an insult or anything.... I truly didn't understand the post. I didn't see the logic in it and the lawyer question goes right over my head. I didn't even see a question being asked. What was the lawyer/trick question? I just didn't get any of it. Perhaps if...
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    Why did God need to give us free will, or did He need to? Do we really have it?

    I am sorry, but none of that made sense to me. Yes. Its talking about people. Not beliefs. People. The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one Children of the kingdom are not beliefs. Children of the wicked one...