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Barrd and Joyful, Your reasoning is flawed. You both come giving your interpretations of what Jesus teaches. Thereby you make yourself the authority on what Jesus teaches. Hence you are teaching what Jesus teaches. You both are teachers. Now I believe you are attempting to follow Jesus'...

By spreading what YOU interpret Jesus as teaching, you have made yourself a teacher... So then according to your teaching here in this post Jesus commands perfection, no one is perfect, so no one is born again. Is this a fair assessment then?

Since this post seems to be ignored.... Joyful, I can expand... Lets say I "keep the commands" for one day. Would this qualify for being born again? If the answer is no, then how long do I need to "keep the commands"? If continually, then logically it follows that I have to continue "keeping...

Sorry coming late to the topic...Do you have a post #? Well actually it isn't. The person responsible for the OP might have a different nuance or some type of cultural significance behind the word "Christian". Words truly only take on meaning within a context, and we have little context to...

This is a fair assessment, yet do you not understand I could use your own argument on you? Why listen to you? You are setting yourself up as a teacher. I can read the Bible for myself...I have the words of Jesus just as you. I have never heard of The Barrd As a bit of a correction...most do...

So I think a definition of what it means to be "Christian" is in order here...

This is interesting... Matthew did not die for you, yet to you accept his teachings? What about Luke, or John? Do you follow the teachings of Mark?

Not sure about the metaphor portion (neither am I saying I disagree), yet the first bit here is dead accurate! Good show ewq!

I am not attempting to prove anything is taken away, if that were the case I would have posted quite a bit more content. Yet it is my conviction that we are no longer under the Law. I am also convinced no argument I may present will alter your personal interpretation of Scripture in this...

I can expand... Lets say I "keep the commands" for one day. Would this qualify for being born again? If the answer is no, then how long do I need to "keep the commands"? If continually, then logically it follows that I have to continue "keeping the commands" until the end of my days. Then...

This logic follows that you are not born again until after this life. Is this what you are conveying?

Well I wonder if anyone has cut off their right hand, or perhaps plucked out their eye...these commands were directed to all... Then again the Ten Commandments are apportioned to the Law so if this is the requirement someone needs to start animal sacrifice again. Can you say covet? Yet if it...

It is obvious you do not see your eisegesis... You do know you are putting these constraints on the text right? The context is the gathering of the saints... My point is the saints are gathered before the first resurrection, it is the 1Thess passage that describes this. The saints must be...

And this illustrates my point...Jesus returns with His saints...so the 1Th event can not be the first resurrection...

Revelation 19 5 And a voice came from the throne, saying, “Give praise to our God, all you His bond-servants, you who fear Him, the small and the great.” 6 Then I heard something like the voice of a great multitude and like the sound of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder...

The 1 Th "resurrection" does not refer to this... Revelation 20 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and bbooks...

Then the dead in Christ will be resurrected, that is, believers of this dispensation will be raised. Old Testament saints will evidently be raised at the end of the Great Tribulation (Dan. 12:2), for the phrase “in Christ” refers exclusively to Church-Age saints. The bodies of the dead in Christ...

This theory suggests 1Th 4:16 refers to the resurrection... That is open for debate.

For some time I was allowing the forum to be excessive in consuming time. I no longer let the forum press on my mind nor do I need to check in every couple of hours as I once felt I did. I don't have the phone out, looking at the forum when my attention should be focused on the person I am...