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Assertions without support are merely opinions... If a "believer" rejects Christ then what qualifies them as a "believer"? Non-believers reject Christ...

Since this topic seems to be bleeding through the threads I wanted to bump it... To add fresh insight I will affirm I do not like the language or wording of OSAS but I am in greater agreements of the perseverance of the Saints doctrine. All of this coincides directly with scripture as it is...

Acts 5:1-5 1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. 3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to...

“It seems odd, that certain men who talk so much of what the Holy Spirit reveals to themselves, should think so little of what He has revealed to others.” Charles Spurgeon

Once a person decides to call another judgmental they become exactly what they accuse... Also I completely agree we are to refute false doctrine...those who promote false doctrine promote a false god... Although I do not believe we can judge the final outcome of those who have a skewed view of...

Honestly I think we are in agreement in accordance with the list...although some of the wording can suggest timing regarding the eschatology... I want to mull it over a bit and get back later though...I didn't study it too much, just read it over... And YES I DO BELIEVE HE IS COMING AGAIN!!!!!

In my response I said "core beliefs" of orthodoxy...I think that would put the field level...I was using the denomination naming or labeling only for examples... I do not believe eschatological issues to be "core beliefs." I will say I like your list though...!

Now here is a humble post I can respect... Let me encourage you to express your opinions and interpretations of Scripture! Honestly I believe we will agree more than disagree, but if we do disagree let iron sharpen iron. No it is just the language I disagree with in the OP... You see I...

Can you point to a specific question I asked to make you come to that conclusion?

Name the post where where I refused to accept Jesus' command of being faithful please. Also if you refuse to answer my questions why am I obligated to answer yours?

And here you are the one making false accusations...please heed your own advice. I will say this a third time, I have never revealed my position regarding OSAS...

So again you use the tactic of straw-man argument...then you malign me again. Honestly I have been patient and kind with our discussion thus far. Your comment "I know you don't want the whole truth to be revealed. Your tactic is obvious that you want the whole truth to be silenced" is an...

No, I make no such assertions. What I do want is to have a clear definition of what the term "Christian" is supposed to mean in the title of the thread. From my point of view, the Nicene Creed is a document crafted by Christians. Even though we may not agree on the exact soteriology...

Here is one quote from post #31 of you...and if I comb this thread I am sure there are more to illustrate my point "People who cling to the OSAS doctrine claim that all they have to do is believe in Jesus, and they will have eternal life, no matter what they might do from that moment on. " Can...

My description is clear as to what you actually do here...your claim of innocence is as false as Joyful's... Honestly I don't care if you want to discuss your interpretations, I just want you to own them without hiding behind the "well these are not my teachings" false claim.

Again you assume I was attempting to derail this thread...why is it you feel the need to malign my character? My questions were specific to this topic and your responses. It is obvious you do not desire to clarify your claims, only make them...

I have posted a series of questions and you have not ventured to answer even one. You make the claim that all you are doing is spreading Jesus' word, yet you interpret what He said. You are giving the meaning to His words. So your claim of innocence is not honest, and I have already proven...

Well before I answer...would you are to answer any of the questions I posed? I mean you are the one building the premise and making the claims...and as you can see from my questions your statements need clarification....

And again I never revealed my position regarding that doctrine...you do understand you have a fallacy here... Also the general statement "you don't have to obey Jesus' teaching to be saved" is another fallacy. Perhaps some may teach this, yet I am certain that others do not. Also respectfully...

Is this your teaching that I disregard? Allow me to expand a bit for clarity... First off what language was Jesus speaking when He said this? Because if you are looking at the literal meaning of this verse Jesus never said "teacher". Why does this matter? Well because if simple word...