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Let's stop focusing on intrinsic sinfulness of the body. That reeks of gnosticism. The whole being is intrinsically sinful due to it being separated from GOD. That happened in the garden, remember? Since sin by definition is not doing GOD's will, man who is separated from GOD cannot know GOD's...

IMO, the devil lives in your heart. You are terrified of being exposed by the light. Since you refuse to directly answer a simple, direct question, I will have to infer from your answer that you are unable to sin. Is that correct?

There is no such thing as "conditional forgiveness" in Christ. Those who have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ via a forensic directive. The unconditional forgiveness abides continually. If we abide it is there; if we sin the spirit will work to turn us to our advocate with the...

The New Jerusalem bible is a Catholic bible. But the version of Zechariah 14:5 that I showed you is also found in all Eastern Orthodox bibles, some Protestant bibles, and later Jewish bibles published by the Jewish Publication Society (JPS). The JPS' stated editorial policy is to favor the...

So you admit that your wretched man (body of sin) coexists with your new man. The only other possibility is that you think the old Scott doesn't exist anymore and it is impossible for Scott to ever sin again. Which is it, Scott?.

Not blind. The version you displayed is from corrupted manuscripts. What Zechariah actually wrote is: The valley between the hills will be filled in, yes, it will be blocked as far as Jasol [Azal], it will be filled in as it was by the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Zechariah...

Where does it say anything in this verse about people fleeing? The valley between the hills will be filled in, yes, it will be blocked as far as Jasol [Azal], it will be filled in as it was by the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Zechariah 14:5, New Jerusalem Bible

The bible says: The valley between the hills will be filled in, yes, it will be blocked as far as Jasol [Azal], it will be filled in as it was by the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Zechariah 14:5, New Jerusalem Bible and you do not agree with it. Isn't that rebellion?

If your body of sin is dead and no longer exists, and you are only a new man, when you do sin, what causes you to sin? Christ cannot sin.

JZ, I'm sorry to have to say that I think you are exactly right. Sorry for those who believe in Christ in their mind, but are not believing into Christ by putting away the old man. In the Greek, John 3:16 actually says 'whosoever believes INTO him'. This requires an obedience of the whole...

If your body of sin no longer exists and you are only a new man, when you do sin, what causes you to sin? Christ cannot sin.

The version of Zechariah 14:5 you used is a mistranslation (corruption actually) which consequently undermines your whole argument. This verse really says: The valley between the hills will be filled in, yes, it will be blocked as far as Jasol [Azal], it will be filled in as it was by the...

I didn't read the entire post because it is much too long. But I will say that Romans 3:31 doesn't say THE law but simply law. There is no definite article. It literally says: Are we then nullifying law through the faith? May it not be! We are upholding law. IMO, Paul is saying that we aren't...

The Nicene creed was a reactionary response to a perceived threat that served a purpose for a specific time. But the trinity defined therein is by no means the most accurate depiction of GOD. I find it mind-bogglingly funny that people can take offense at GOD being called 3 beings, while...

:) That's why I started another thread regarding the promises. Slowly working on that. You do make a good point about promises to Abraham being passed on to Isaac, even though Isaac may not have received a promise directly. I'll have to consider that.

WM, I think that Scott doesn't believe each believer has abiding within an intrinsic reality of no condemnation through the baptism into Christ's death, which enables each believer to progressively put to death the works of the flesh through the new law of life. Instead, a position of no...

Exactly. You chose the version I knew you would. Many scholars consider the last 10 words to be added because they are not in the older manuscripts and the church fathers don't mention them. So what does Romans 8:1 say now: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ...

Or speak the truth that it is a learning process. Those in whom GOD's seed abides are not able to continue sinning because his seed will convict them and cause them to repent. Not so those who don't have his seed abiding in them; they are not convicted, and continue to sin.

Because I don't allow myself to get entangled in vain reasonings. You never give direct simple responses, to simple direct questions. It always has to be these lengthy elaborations, that are apparently required to make all the necessary connections you need to support your contrived edifice...

Everything I posted is true concerning Abraham. No promises were made like that to Isaac. The promise was made to Jacob, so that would mean that the great multitude of peoples would be the nations that come from him. No promise was made to any of them that the seed would become many nations...