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We're all rough bbyrd! That's why we need Jesus! And why we ought to pass along a little of what we get from him. I reckon, anyway. Hmmm. Seems to me that what you are basing OT on, is what would be agreed upon, universally. Is that correct? Or...perhaps, what can be established by physical...

I most certainly shake my head at those who have tried, and failed, to predict our Lords return. But I suspect even most Dispensationalists do that too...even of 'their own'. Not every Dispensationalists thinks they can or should try and pin the tail on the return date, thankfully. And not every...

:D Ha! No, not really. But, you know, maybe this time? Eh...we'll give it a little go, but knowing what we do now, may drop it a tad sooner if we find ourselves on a similar path!

You and I have been down this road before, and it has not ended well. Mostly because I struggle to understand you. But, out of respect, I'll give it another go. Okay, some objective truths.... John 14:6 - Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the...

Certainly an interesting idea. But...if I may...doesn't the 'try believing in a doctrine exactly opposite to what you currently believe to see if it changes anything' presuppose that belief and the resulting circumstances from following that belief, is but subjective? Whereas, if, when reading...

It might depend on how I apply it...or at least, I hope it does. I'm not keen for the 'battle' of iron sharpens iron, but the concept of...if my doctrinal concept is sound, it should stand up under questions and criticisms from others, rather than wobble and crumble...if that makes sense. I...

Ah. Well...I confess I'm not sure what to say to that. Thank you, I think. Although, I find myself at a loss without a direct conversation to interact with. I don't often start threads because I just don't like the idea that I'm all about pushing a soapbox message. If I have a direct question I...

Report me if you feel you must. But I do wonder what they will find if they take the time to read back over our posts. I freely admit my sarcasm runs away with me at times, but I do not think that is against forum rules. I do, however, believe you called me insane, full of hot air, and other...

Hi Jay, thanks for your 2 cents! Sometimes I find that people cannot grasp the idea of respecting people in their differences. I mean...sure, sometimes I o_O at what others understand...because golly, I just can't see it or how they came to it. And yeah, I like digging into the biblical points...

When I say "Literal", I mean physical. People seem to expect that Christ's Kingdom has to be physically present on earth before it can be termed a Kingdom. And I was trying to point out, as you have very well above, that Christ's Kingdom is present now in many different ways that don't NEED to...

Ah...inevitably there comes a point where the conversation just can't go any further without devolving into a nasty circle of insult and sarcasm. Davy clearly wasn't spending a second of his time on weighing my arguments or biblical evidence, so there's little point wasting my time. And while at...

The church, as the NT defines it, is but the body of Christ, those elected by grace and grafted into the tree. Romans 9-11 tells us that unbelieving Jews are 'cut off' from this tree, while believing Gentiles are grafted in. But if we dig a bit harder into the NT, we find that even back in the...

Hi farouk, yes, I'm good thanks! How about yourself? I think 1 Cor 10:32 is good as well, although I see it pointing to 'unsaved' Gentiles and Jews...for all who was part of those two groups but are now in Christ, must, by definition, be part of the church, where Christ has broken down the wall...

Wait...you CAN engage in decent, civil conversation WHEN its something you deem worthy and correct? My goodness...how...decent of you. And not at all manipulative or narcissistic. Well, since you've so decisively put me in my place, including all that spankingly honest bible exegesis where you...

Only the damned go through the 1000 year reign of Christ and then will be judged? And, can you at all prove that from the text? Where is the 1000, or mention of different judgements? In point of fact, the only two mentions of the judgement throne; Matt 25, which discusses the judgement of the...

Apocalyptic genre is not a "formula", its simply telling us how the book was written and therefore how it must be read. Similarly, if you read something that started with "once upon a time", you would understand immediately that what followed wasn't to be taken seriously. Genre matters because...

You're still missing the "my Kingdom is not of this earth" part. Seriously; look up the verses that speak of "The Kingdom of God". All the times Jesus warned those who struggled to 'enter' it. All the parables he compared it too. It was never meant to be a 'literal Kingdom'. You enter it by...

You responded, yes. Satisfactorily...nope. Suggesting a bunch of verses that speak of the next age means Christ is NOT ruling now, doesn't actually do much for your argument. It tells us that Christ reigns THEN as well as NOW, but should that surprise us? Look...unless you can, in some way...