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Oh. So the flood doesn't happen until 6 days after Noah is sealed in the ark and it's post trib and pre wrath? Nah. It's pre trib.

I believe what Word says. Simple as that. Revelation 7 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were...

Genesis 7 Genesis 7 17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth. 1 Thes 4 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall...

The Chuch is not the 144,000. The 144,000 are of the twelve tribes, just as the Word says. Are you ignorant of this mystery? Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to...

Just as the Church will be safe in the ark during the 70th week of Daniel. He was in the clouds safely in the ark. Noah was taken from the surface of the earth, just as the Church will be taken from the surface of the earth. Noah returned to the surface of the earth, just as the Church will...

Just wondering. When Hitler was gathering the Jews at the Holocaust was he only looking for those of the tribe of Judah? Also since Paul tells us there is no difference between Jew and Greek was Hitler also gathering Greeks?

Noah was sealed in the ark 6 days before the flood. The ark containing Noah was on earth when the flood waters came. Noah is a depiction of the Church being in heaven when the great tribulation comes on the earth as we can escape all these things that will come to pass. The Church will also be...

Actually it proves a post trib rapture of the twelve tribes across the earth. It the first fruits are pumpkins, the harvest is pumpkins. Since the first fruits are of the twelve tribes across the earth, the harvest is the twelve tribes across the earth. Here is the post trib rapture harvest...

Thy wrath is come and is finished. Revelation 10 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation 11 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Ok. So when the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord............means nothing to you. The time of judgement means nothing to you. You are very confused. How's your golf game?

And today your assignment is to list the pretrib rapture believers, post trib believers as end of wrath believers. Please provide shoe sizes.

Oh my mistake. Are those trumpets of joy or what?

I get past it easily. The coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal immediately after the tribulation and BEFORE the 7th seal of wrath. There are two raptures, one pretrib and one post trib which is pre wrath. Then Jesus returns at the end of wrath for Armageddon and to set up His...

So how come you understand that and yet many have the Church going through the wrath of God?

No. Go Fish. The coming of Jesus in Revelation 14 confirms Revelation 6 that Jesus comes BEFORE wrath for the harvest. = lack of understanding

They have nothing to do with each other.

His angels gather the elect shown both in Matthew 24 and Revelation 14. This happens immediately after the tribulation and BEFORE the wrath of God, as we can see in Revelation 6 and Revelation 14. And Matthew 24 occurs at the sixth seal as marked by signs of the sun, moon and stars. Matthew 24...

And yet they are trumpets of wrath and wrath is over when the 7th trumpet sounds, and Christ has set up His kingdom on earth. I don't ignore the fact that wrath is come. And is over when the Lord sets up His kingdom on earth and the dead are judged. You want to ignore the facts and pretend...

Oh ok. So the great multitude in heaven in Revelation 7 is a mirage. They are not there. You need to learn the difference between tribulation and wrath. I thought it was pretribbers that didn't understand the difference.