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So you're telling me you don't understand the difference between tribulation and wrath.

Oh boy. Sorry bub. I understand that the tribulation is over at the sixth seal and wrath starts after the 7th seal is opened when the 1st trumpet of wrath sounds. Which means you have the Church going through the wrath of God.................but we are not appointed to wrath.

The trumpets of wrath begin after the 7th seal is opened, at the sounding of the 1st trumpet. So yes, you have the Church going through the wrath of God. And I don't need any straw men.

Great. Which proves???????????????????????????????

Then why do you have the Church going through the wrath of God? The Church isn't even on earth during the tribulation and you want to run them through the wrath of God.

Song of Solomon 2 8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills. 9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice. 10 My beloved spake, and...

I see.......as usual, you were unable to address the scriptures the scriptures that prove you are in error. None of which has anything to do with the pre trib rapture. If there was proof that the pretrib rapture was in error, I would not believe in the pretrib rapture. When our Lord says that...

I missed the part where I said God guaranteed to reward unrighteousness. All I did was post a scripture without comment. If you have a problem, take it up with God.

Well, you are partly correct in that the 144,000 are sealed before the fifth seal, probably at the 1st seal, but I know that you don't understand that. As to the great multitude, they are indeed in heaven for the marriage supper which we see in Revelation 19. You seem to want skip that part...

Additionally, those that are going to be destroyed that destroy the earth are already dead. They are being judged. They will be cast into the lake of fire after the 1000 years.

What does the Bible say about the 7th trumpet. The mystery of God should be finished. Revelation 10 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. I'm not sure why you...

Because wrath is over at the 7th trumpet as Christ sets up His kingdom on earth. Revelation 11 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

If wrath begins at the 7th trumpet, how come Christ has set up His kingdom on earth at the 7th trumpet. What you claim is impossible.

Fact. If the seals are open.........it just happened. The 7 seals are the 70th week of Daniel. The seals will be opened when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in at the SECRET, PRETRIBULATION RAPTURE............TO HEAVEN. The 5th seal is the great tribulation. Revelation 14:14-16 is the...

The 6th seal is the coming of Jesus for a harvest. The tribulation is over at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Then there is a great multitude in heaven BEFORE the wrath of God. The 6th seal is the second coming when Jesus remains in the clouds. We see that in...

Genesis 12 1 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I...

The tribulation is over at the 6th seal coming of Jesus, so yes Revelation 19 is not only post trib but it is at the end of wrath.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. There are two raptures. Jesus is the door. When the door is open, His sheep hear His voice and enter through the door. John 10 2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the porter openeth; and the...

The world will believe the aliens have come as that is the lie that is prepared. Those believers that are watching for the antichrist and not watching for the Lord as we have been instructed will know that the door is shut. They will know they should have listened to the Word of God and not...

You would be thinking wrong. When Jesus comes at the 6th seal it will be to gather the believers and it will be too late for the non believers. Yes, they will see the Lord in the clouds, but door will be shut. And wrath will begin.