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Matthew 24:15-22 = talking to the Jews = 2nd harvest at the 6th seal.

I suspect so. At least half of the Church does not believe Jesus comes in an hour they think not. The foolish virgins are not ready when the Messiah comes as they are not watching for Him, they are watching for the Antichrist.

The rapture of the Church is secret. No one will see Christ when the Lord comes for the Church but the believers themselves. There would be no need for the deception that there are aliens if the world will see Christ when He returns for the Church. It will be the hour of testing. If the world...

Yeah. It's called the Word of God and I have no doubt most don't understand. That much is apparent. The dead rise first as clearly written. The dead return with the Lord when He comes for the alive that remained, as clearly written. We can see these two coming in the Song of Solomon. This is so...

That seems to be what most of the foolish virgins think.

I think it will be the SDG strengthening of the covenant. If it's not, the physical timeline says it must happen NOW. So your covenant with Israel must happen now.

Well all the rest of them are given a number. 2 thru 7. That only leaves the 1st seal. You have some really bad logic, though you try.......................and fail.

The tribulation is about the Jews as the 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel.

Because the Church is in heaven before the seals are opened as we see in Revelation 5

Yeah. One of the seals is opened, and then the 2nd, then the 3rd seal, then the 4th seal, then the 5th seal, then the 6th seal and then the 7th seal. That would mean when one of the seals was opened, it was the 1st seal. Just common sense. You have to change the order of the seals because you...

The Church is already in heaven when the angel is proclaiming the Gospel. God has turned His attention to part of Israel, the seed of the woman after the Church is in heaven. This is the reason that there are 144,000 first fruits of the second harvest. The Church is in heaven before the seals...

So he opens one of the seals and then another and another etc. So that is the order they occur in. Do you find it necessary to change the order they are opened in?

Why? Because it doesn't fit your ill conceived doctrine? Get a grip. They are numbered for a reason. You have no idea what is going on all around you because you are looking for the antichrist. When you find him, it will be too late.

Think you want. I provided the scripture. If you can't see Him come for the 144,000 first fruits, that's on you. We are given a vision of the end times. When those seals are opened the event will happen. Your logic is very flawed. Ok, get out your sledge and pound those square pegs into round...

Chapter and verse, so I can clear up your misunderstanding? Yes, Gentiles and Jews. Two harvests. Jacob had two brides.

There is a grain harvest and a fruit harvest. After the rapture of the Church, the grain harvest what will Israel say? Jeremiah 8 20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved. They will know they missed the first harvest. It was God's intent that they be the first harvest...

Because there are two raptures, one pretrib and one post trib. The real question is when Jesus comes immediately after the tribulation and before the 7th seal is opened, which is post trib. Why do you think that Jesus comes only at the end of wrath which is post wrath? Do you not yet understand...

The Word of God agrees with me. That's enough. If you can't see at least 3 more coming of Jesus something is wrong. You know that He comes with the armies of heaven. That's one coming. You should know that He comes at the 6th seal for the gathering from heaven and earth. And yet you deny that...

There are two raptures. The first is the Church before the seals are opened. Secret pretribulation rapture. The second rapture is the gathering from heaven and earth. It occurs at the 6th seal immediately after the tribulation. Then the wrath of God begins as the 7th seal is opened containing...

Your ignorance is not understanding that tribulation is not the wrath of God. Jesus comes for the Church before the seals are opened. Jesus comes for the gathering from heaven and earth at the 6th seal, immediately after the tribulation. Then there is a great multitude in heaven which we see at...