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That is right, I think, that the final harvest is after He returns. OK, I usually think of that as the return of Christ, but whatever. I don't think so. There are still nations very much alive we rule over in that 1000 years. You seem to be conflating the great white throne judgment at the...

The last of the seven is the seventh. There is also the trump of God. There were many trumpets in the OT. I don't think you can force the voice of the archangel to be the seventh trumpet of wrath? You may choose to adopt that opinion to make your doctrines seem to fit.

Says who? You conflate the wrath trumpets with the voice of the archangel trumpet. When we go up Jesus has not yet come down. The dead who are raised at the end of the millennium are not the Bride. In the Rapture it is the bride.

I see nothing about 'coming' when it is us going (up into the air to be with Him) Neither do I see a need for that trumpet to be one of the trumpets or wrath. So there is nothing here 'clearly' talking about the second coming of Jesus at all. You seem to think the wrath trumpet is the one that...

The time of Jacob's trouble does not mean that Jacob is still alive on earth. That simply refers to his descendants. I never mentioned a harvest. The second coming is not before the trumpets. If you explain what you think the final harvest is, we might look at that.

Neither does the wrath of God. None of which included God's wrath or the Tribulation.

The Tribulation is before the second coming and we are told that a leader will be here in that time, and do certain things.

We learn it is a seven years covenant that is broken mid way after 3 and a half years. We learn when it is broken the beast stands in the holy place and has his image set up. We learn that after the covenant is broken believers in Israel must flee immediately for their lives. We learn God...

Being a liar like his father is what he is all about. By the time he breaks it, it is years into the covenant. The covenant is a means to an end. Soon as he feels he can get away with it, he breaks it. They do not break the treaty until 3/12 years into it. Obviously that is not 'just made'...

All can make a choice now and also in that last seven years. That is why witnesses preach and ask people to repent. That is made up. Nothing is extended, that is why we are given the very days. We know that the AC works with others to break the covenant I gave the verses a few posts ago. We...

Daniel 11:28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land. So we know he is against the covenant. We also know he conspires with others of like mind. Daniel 11:30 For the ships of...

Surely you are familiar with the prophesy in Daniel that says he will break the covenant in the middle of the seven years? That is Scripture and therefore Scriptural proof. The Great Tribulation or second part of that 7 years is 3/12 years. No. The 3 days are three days. They do not lay dead...

Well, if the false prophet arises after the ten, what else would that make him but the eleventh? Since his job is to get people to follow the beast of course he is not a kingdom unto himself.(but he will be powerful as any of those ten kings to say the least) In revelation, since he comes after...

Looks to me like the wolf in sheep clothing (the false prophet) appears as a sheep to more than just 'christians'. That could be why we see him with two horns. (perhaps muslim and christian appeal). But whatever the reason, he is in the same regime as the beast, and yes, that involves 10...

What was your main point? I seem to recall you were trying to support contradictions and differences in the bible. Looks like that has degraded into vague one liners.

No one needs to change that fact. But another fact is that the beast is not born the time he sets up the abomination of desolation. So there is plenty that goes on in the first half of the seven years also. Having total control for a certain time does not mean that he did not have a lot of...

For a (anything) to be changed or broken mid way, there has to be a mid point. The tribulation is the mid point of the seven years. If you doubt that just double three and a half years and see what the total is. And...so? Does that tell us where and when it happens? Actually I think we need a...

OK, so your interpretation of your words is that you later clarified what seemed like an obvious statement. Please be careful to be clear.

Only from you are there empty words. Right we know who they were. Babylon,Medo Persia,Greece and Rome. So now we jump thousands of years. "AFTER this" So this AntiChrist who is clearly identified in this chapter, is DIFFERENT from all those other beast/kingdoms that cam before. No doubt when...

Says you. However, the fourth beast is the last one. Your little proclamation is overruled.