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  1. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    No, they were made of dirt, flesh, blood and bone just as we are and they were promised immortality if they obeyed, just as we are. They did not obey which proves to me they had a fleshly nature just as we do but it's ok if we disagree on issues like this because however we understand it will...
  2. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    There were two kinds, one was ok, one was not. The one was capable of imparting eternal life. Who do you know that if you eat His flesh and drink His blood will give you eternal life? Does the fact He is referred to as a tree confuse you? Can you recognize a metaphor when you see one? If we can...
  3. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    Sorry, I am still not sure if you believe Adam and Eve were created with a fleshly nature?
  4. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    I thought that but did not say it;) Where I attend church we wait until everyone has the emblem in hand before partaking. Maybe it promotes a Spirit of unity or maybe there was a lot of disorder in this particular church, who knows?
  5. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    In my opinion the eating and drinking is figurative, meaning to live by. The scripture says it is a sign or proclamation in memory of Christ. Our body and blood being reaffirmed as a sacrifice in the body and blood of Christ is what we are supposed to be reexamining ourselves about before we...
  6. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    Or maybe a hyperbolic statement? Does the scripture as a whole teach there is anything sinful about having a child as long as we are married? Just the opposite I think. 1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else...
  7. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    I am trying to make a clear distinction between a sinful nature, which I think would be better referred to as a fleshly nature. In other words, to have a fleshly or sinful nature is not a sin, it is not something a baby needs to be baptized for. Not until we realize we are disobeying the Lord...
  8. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    OK, I get it, I am just a little slow:)
  9. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    Yes it was knowledge but knowledge of what? What gives us knowledge of good an evil? If the tree of life was a metaphor for Christ as some believe (I don't know if you do), What would the tree of good and evil be a metaphor for?
  10. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    Yes, thanks to you!
  11. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    Did you notice I gave her a like also?
  12. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    Yes, the sin/flesh nature is passed down but that is not what I understand the doctrine of OS to be. Have I been wrong all this time? Then why did they eat the fruit? Please don't say it was the apple:)
  13. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    I agree, the sin/flesh nature is passed down. Then why did they eat the fruit? Please do not say it was the apple:)
  14. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    Ro 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Please notice: Paul is saying the law is weak through the flesh, not in itself. The weakness is in us, not the law but...
  15. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    This doctrine was brought about by a misunderstanding of Psalms 51:5. David is simply saying he is a child of adultery, in which case the sin is in his mother and father. Ezekiel 18: is clearly teaching the sins of the father (or mother) are not passed on to their child. Not to say they cannot...
  16. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    I sometimes use the word (try) in order to keep down confusion. "Grace through faith that is accompanied by works" (Yes. We all like Ephesians 2:8-9, but not everyone likes 2:10) It's simply because they don't understand, our works are made perfect the same way we are, through Christ Jesus...
  17. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    Because of their faith. Only God.
  18. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    And we don't even do those very well yet He accepts us as perfect through Jesus Christ our Lord, Praise God!
  19. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    God did credit Job with keeping the law the same as He does us. We can know this by taking the scripture as a whole, not by just choosing one verse over another. If we come to our conclusions by picking and choosing we come up with many contradictions. If we find a contradiction we can know we...
  20. jimd

    Calling all Law Keepers.

    I think this is Job trying to justify himself rather than God, see chapter 32: I don,t agree with the doctrine of original sin. I think you are right about what made Jesus the perfect sacrifice.