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Ok great... I was looking for something a little more specific. A verse or chapter....

We haven't had a discussion. I pointed out an error in your logic, but we haven't had a discussion. By the way, isn't all this complaining about red herrings a red herring itself? Answer: yes, it is.

totally irrelevant.

I don't have a problem with that. Is it possible to agree with a man (John Calvin) on one issue and disagree on another? I mean, he's not Jesus or one of the Apostles. I actually have read his work as well as many other theologans like Luther and Tertullian and agree with some things and...

Interesting thought... How do you figure this to be so?

Love what ScottA had to say! I disagree with some minor points... Namely i am not one to believe in free will. I don't necessarily believe we are robots. I only say that because someone's bound to say that sooner or later. But we are sheep. Sheep can wonder off. They can eat on the north...

Concerning eating meats offered to idols, Paul wasn't concerned with "you" doing it as much as he was with how it would affect weak brethren. If you look at 1 cor 8 and 10, he isn't particularly thrilled with it, but he says idols are nothing and eat what is set before you without asking...

Well it tells me they proclaim themselves to be Christians. And like I said, i never said they weren't. So what is your point?

I'm interested in discussing Christianity. Not Catholicism or Protestantism. Over the last 6 months or so I've been true and held to that point of view. I know... There are those that will say, "we Catholics are Christians! " save it.. Never said you weren't. I am just not interested in...

Fear of the Lord motivates me.

Is that qhat all this is about? LOL! ok...

Well Copperhead, I am a local school teacher. The 4 beasts are taught about in the schools. We just don't identify them as such. Then again, you (and others) might have a different understanding of who the 4 beasts are. Lion=Babylon (or maybe Chaldia) Bear=Assyria Leopard=Greece...

Well Bygrace, I suppose its due to folks not fully believing that Paul was an Apostle. I've read some of the comments on this thread and I read things like, "I believe Jesus more than Paul". If you truly believe that Paul was an Apostle, thats an impossible statement to make. An apostle is...

Are you hoping I will? I hope you aren't! I have ideas and thoughts... I have heard about this in teachings. But I am far from fully understanding it.

Twinc... You are losing me on this one. I have no desire to attack the Catholic faith (doctrines I will attack with fairness), nor personal beliefs, but it going to be hard here. I have no problem with soneone saying they are personally guided by the HS. I don't think it happens as much as...

I believe Balaam was a true prophet, just not a good one. The whole thing with Balaam asking God if he could curse Israel was bad. But it worked out although I believe God was ticked off about it. Even after God annointed his ass, God still conversed with Balaam. In the end, Balaam resisted...

Please excuse my ignorance... But is there a problem with people NOT wanting to hear about the prophecies of the Bible? In other words, are there a lot of Churches refusing to teach about them? Seems to me you can't teach about Noah without touching on prophecy because God said it would...

Good thought. I am still intrigued. I see two points to bring up. The sons of the stranger could fit the gentiles. But it also says they will keep his sabbath "from polluting it". Does that describe the gentiles? The gentiles are not required to keep the Sabbath, but what of polluting it...

Rollo is speaking of Martin Luther nailing his 95 Thesis to the door of the local Church. In actuality it was an attempt to reform the Catholic Church. It just wasn't received well. Martin Luther was appalled by many practices he saw, most particularly the practice of indulgence. I think he...

Really haven't thought of it that way. It is interesting... I believe that the gentile church was predestinated before the foundation of the world. Not only the Church in general, but the individuals in it (as Jesus said, he knows them by name). So it wouldn't be wrong for Jesus to refer to...