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No....I said that you were so intent on the word 'slave', you were likening the state of belonging to Christ, to being owned in America. The two states are not the same, but you are claiming they are, just because they both come under the title of 'slave.' But you have not even tried (probably...

I'm sorry...but can I ask a question?? You say here, rightly, that rules can't forgive sins, only God can. You also say that breaking God's rules makes us sinners...again, sure, I agree with that, and so would scripture. But your sentence above, which I underlined, that says that God has made...

I'm sorry, but I seriously doubt that. 'Individuals'? You're not going to go that step further and tell us which 'individual' you claim to be? If I alone bear witness about myself, my testimony is not true. (John 5:31, ESV)

I think that if I had to answer yes to all of the above, then no one would enter heaven, and Jesus sacrifice was useless. The bible is clear on a few things....one of them is: for salvation to be given, then one must believe in Christ. But is just 'belief' enough? Satan clearly believes that...

I'm sorry, Apocalypticist....can you perhaps explain a little more about what you mean in regards to the "bible character"....I don't understand what you mean.

Ok....firstly....if you have an issue with the warning you recieved, then you PM me or Hammerstone...as per the boards rules. Secondly....."Rich history"? You called the entire Roman Catholic Church "apostate". You do know what that means, yes? "Apostate".....a person who forsakes his...

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I'm sorry...but basing your comments on the word "slave" and thereby finding similarity between the two states, is stretching it a bit. Yes, we are 'slaves' to Christ....we have been bought for a price. But in reality the bible teaches that when we come into this 'slavery' we are actually...

You've completely missed or avoided my point. Yes God bought me for a price, yes I am a new person. But this has zero comparablility or compatibility with what being a slave in America meant. My question to you was this.....how on earth can you compare the two? Biblically you...

See.....I have zero wish to play games. But the problem is, you are here laying down a rule that you clearly haven't thought all the way through. You are so intent on the word 'truth' there, and its exact meaning in that context, that you don't seem to realise that if you were to follow it...

I don't know that the issue at hand is if God brought good out of evil. That's kind of what he does, and for Christians we know personally as well as from history that he does this. But my point is....it was still sin. It was still wrong. It's that simple. How people were treated, was not how...

I don't know that i'd go as far as saying that slavery was 'accepted' by God. God gave commands to deal with many things man did...most of them sinful things. Just because he gave these rules, does not mean he accepted the act as just or right. Also....you've been doing a lot of comparing...

Well, of course you don't want to discuss it. You want to hold everyone to a rigid adherance to what you see as a straight forward understanding of it. The very big problem with your understanding, is that it doesn't play out. What it does is slowly bind you tighter and tighter until the very...

Ok....lets tease this out a little. John 4:24 means that we must worship in Spirit and 'Truth'. And you take this 'truth' to mean that every aspect of our worship must be in strict, rigid, truth...it MUST be true...factual and physically correct, or we are as good as pagan. But...one then...

Your post is quite long, and I'm sorry, I don't have time to reply in kind..... But I would say.....often in scipture we find things running together in both physical and spiritual harmony. The people of Israel, being brought out of slavery...a spiritual foreshadowing of the reality Christ...

Comparing 'being a slave to Christ', and 'being a slave in America'.....I am a little boggled at the attempt to put them together....perhaps I am missing something, but from face value, it seems to me to be comparing light to darkenss. And the very fact that the comparing is being done shows a...

Ok....a desire to 'get it right' is not a bad thing.....but how do you do that? How do you figure...with a 100% accuracy...that any particular date is the day that Jesus was born? I'm sure down through the years many people have tried to determine when Christ was born....but as it was so long...

Um....we're talking about the most monumentous occasion in history. God died on a cross...a curtain was torn by invisible hands, the ground shook, and the sun blotted out by God's hand. I think...especially given what we know happens to Jesus with his resurrection...and what we know will happen...

I agree with David. It is very, very clear that the slavery in the bible is worlds apart from the slavery that was seen in America ( and among other countries at that time). I have no problem that I am a slave to/for Christ...because I understand it in a biblical sense. But I feel that if we are...

Exactly. All those people out there who jump up and down about celebrating Christmas (regardless of the day)....I would be more worried, if I were them, about not acknowledging that great and momentous occasion when God became a man to save us. Surely that, above everything else, is worth...