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    Is God outside of time?

    What does it mean to know Jesus?
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    Is God outside of time?

    Clever. But seriously, how does one "know" Jesus?
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    Is God outside of time?

    What qualifies as knowing Jesus? Do you know his favorite food?
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    Is God outside of time?

    Knowing about and actually knowing someone are two different things.
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    Is God outside of time?

    If that is the case, you can no longer claim him to be unknowable, only selectively knowable.
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    Is God outside of time?

    The problem with God being wholly other and as the Bible says, unfathomable, how is it that you can claim to know anything about him? You're basically saying you know something that can't be known which is a contradiction.
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    A useful chart for classifying Belief

    Different religions and faiths assign different meanings to God. That's my point. You aren't proving your idea of God, you are just arguing that some power theoretically exists. While we're on the topic of love, how do you define it? Don't give me the "God is love" thing, that isn't a...
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    A useful chart for classifying Belief

    There have been and still are many different views of the attributes of God. Even if your "argument" is correct, it only proves some formless power and not the attributes and personality of your God.
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    A useful chart for classifying Belief

    Atheism is the disbelief in any gods. I don't believe in gods so that makes me an atheist. Being anti-christian is a completely different thing. I don't find loving others disagreeable, I find it disagreeable that I have to believe in a mythical being in order to have love considered legitimate.
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    Is God outside of time?

    First, in order for us to say that something is "designed" or appears to be designed in some way, in your example a painting, we must compare it to things that occur in nature. We then say "this is clearly not created by nature alone, there must be a painter." However, you cannot assert that...
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    Is God outside of time?

    If logic and reason cannot be applied to the "unknowable" God, how is it you claim to know anything about him at all? Your guess is as good as saying "it was magic."
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    Is God outside of time?

    If God does not change, how did he create the universe? To create means something goes from non-existence to existence. Creation is an act of God. Act implies God decided to do something. If he cannot change, how can he go from not creating to creating? Either he must always be creating or...
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    A useful chart for classifying Belief

    Again, you are taking the idea of God and rationalizing new findings. Even if I grant your premise that God is the cause of the universe, that doesn't prove the Christian God, that the god is personal, that the Bible has anything to do with it. All it would prove is that some being or force...
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    A useful chart for classifying Belief

    The problem is that you are rationalizing it to fit with your idea of God. Scientists aren't making claims like that, they are simply observing what is actually happening. I pointed it out because it goes against the claim you have made that "something cannot come from nothing," because it...
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    Is God outside of time?

    I have heard the argument that God is necessarily outside of time. Is this true? If we define "time" as a measurement of change (so that we can say something is in the past, is presently happening, or will happen), then God cannot be outside of time. If God was outside of time, he would not be...
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    A useful chart for classifying Belief

    Except these were actually observed to happen and are capable of being measured and are accepted science. And you are correct in saying I am making an educated guess. I didn't say it was demonstrably true beyond doubt, I said it was more likely to be true. The point I'm trying to make is that...
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    A useful chart for classifying Belief

    Science says that for what we have been able to observe, mostly on Earth, we can surmise that effect follows cause. However, the universe being everything in existence, we can't know all of it. Quantum mechanics has shown that things can come in and out of existence with no pattern of...
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    A useful chart for classifying Belief

    I didn't say nothing created existence, I said that existence has always been—so it doesn't need a cause because it wasn't "created." Saying that "god did it" doesn't mean you've answered the problem, it means you've asserted an answer that equates to nothing more than saying "it was magic"...
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    A useful chart for classifying Belief

    No, that makes the universe the uncaused cause. There is no need for a god. The source of all "creation," or rather, the source of all causal interaction in the universe, is existence. Existence is the necessary cause of all other causes. Nothing "causes" existence because existence has always...
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    Why Christianity?

    Where did it say he was a soldier or fighting for his country? He refused to convert to Islam and was boiled to death.