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  1. LC627

    On How to be saved

    I'm not trying to make it seem like I don't value baptism. Baptism is a must for the believer. It is the putting away of the old man and a circumcision of the flesh, a work done by God. Baptism is important, but alone it does not save. Faith, belief, repentance, and baptism are all important but...
  2. LC627

    On How to be saved

    “Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out...” Acts 3:19 “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of sins.” Acts 10:43
  3. LC627

    On How to be saved

    They were baptized yet did not receive the Holy Spirit until hands where placed on them. justification is through faith baptism is for believers
  4. LC627

    On How to be saved

    When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been...
  5. LC627

    On How to be saved

    A true believer will be baptized but to state that "baptism saves" one is not making room for faith, belief, repentance, etc. People who say, "baptism saves" remove the importance of belief, faith, repentance, and grace. Salvation is summed up in just the action of baptism, which is false...
  6. LC627

    On How to be saved

    What’s ironic about that is the people not in the Ark, but where in the water were the ones that were judged. It’s not the “removal of dirt from the body” but a clean conscience to towards. Christ is our “ark” that saves us from judgment.
  7. LC627

    On How to be saved

    Inconsistent, others didn’t receive the Holy Spirit at baptism and some before it.
  8. LC627

    On How to be saved

    In your list you forgot to mention Communion. “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink His blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last...
  9. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Scripture says that God's grace saves us. You might want to read Romans 4 and see how one is made right in God's sight. You forgot the other part Peter wrote too, "not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience towards God." ****We are heading out of the town for the...
  10. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    I do not believe that baptism saves so a person who physically can't would not be an issue. In those cases you have to do what you have to do. But for able people fully immersed is the only mode. I believe that the early Christians and Apostles knew that baptism was suppose to be fully immersed...
  11. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    The fact is there were many pools in Jerusalem, some significantly large. J.W. McGarvey carefully investigated this matter in 1879. Consider the following: The Virgin’s pool was about 132 feet square and some 3 feet deep. The pool of Siloam occupied approximately 800 square feet and was more...
  12. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Do you have something against being fully immersed? I will follow the example of Jesus Himself. He "went up out of the water" One is not "buried" when they are sprinkled or just have water poured on then.
  13. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    The very word "baptizo" in Greek means to immerse / submerge.
  14. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Also, in order to be saved one needs... 1) A person to baptize them 2) A body of water deep enough to be immersed God's saving power is limited to a location of H20.
  15. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    This is my opinion on the matter. If a person told me they believe in Jesus but yet refuses water baptism, then I would assume they do not have true faith. How can one have confidence in their faith if they are unwilling to follow the commands of God? That faith is disobedient. Even Jesus was...
  16. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    I do not believe it has to do with amniotic fluid. I agree with you that it is ridiculous, just as much as the sinners prayer. I believe it refers to the OT, Ezek. 36:24-27
  17. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Romans 10:10 does not say it leads on towards salvation. It is salvation. "Confession resulting in salvation"
  18. LC627

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    Water and Spirit in John is not about baptism, the NT example of baptism was not yet established. This is seen in Jesus saying to Nicodemus, "Are you the teacher of Israel and do not understand these things" Jesus expected Nicodemus to understand what He was saying. It is a reference to Ezekiel...
  19. LC627

    2 Thessalonians 1:8

    To be born again "born from above" that is done by the Holy Spirit. John 3:6 -Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. And this is through the Living Word of God. 1 Peter 1:23 -For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living...
  20. LC627

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Thank you for your reply. From my many talks with CoC people, I heard baptism more than I hear about Jesus, faith, and repentance. If a person without faith/belief in God is baptized they are still not saved. Simply being baptized does not save a person, faith/belief/repentance all come before...