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Aside from the isms.. osas just means a believers salvation can't be undone. That isn't calvinism. It's just biblical. Salvation before belief is in calvinism. If you are unable to call for salvation.. then salvation is given before belief. I don't know when this happens. I don't know any...

I think many conflate osas with full 5 point calvinism. I believe biblically.. osas is neither calvinism nor arminianism. So people will hear 'you can't lose salvation ' and then assume someone hasn't called out/believed in Jesus to begin with to get it.. because the full blown calvinist...

Hebrews 10:26 No longer a sacrifice for sins... Through chapter 10, the subject is animal sacrifice.. of bulls and goats. It is the old way of the priest sacrificing an animal as a picture for the atoning of sins. It is a picture of what Jesus will do.. a shadow/type. This old way has been...

Everytime with threads like this one.. there is a mixing of eternal salvation, with what believers are commanded after being converted. This is where the confusion comes in. A verse intended to be about intially getting salvation gets put in the 'only getting this at the end of your life'...

You can add to this John 3:36, Romans 5:8.. there are many verses to support eternal life being eternal

Read John 5:24 and Romans chapter 10.

He who endures to the end will be saved.. the context around this verse is escaping/being delivered from trials and tribulations. It's not about receiving eternal life. Different kinds of salvation in the bible. One is eternal. The other is not about eternal salvation but daily...

These do go hand in hand. Comes down to the owner of the eternal salvation. If the owner of the salvation is us.. then of course we can take and leave it.. even after getting it.. like a material gift. But according to scripture.. the eternal life is given.. unearned. Jesus keeps it. So if...

You guys all know the same titled thread is on christianchat.com forums in bible discussion? Wonder which site had it first? Guess it's fine having the same topic on both, but it's a little weird.

Just to clarify, what I mean is, there is going to be guidance from God, prompting that is particularly personal to me. And it may not be scripture words.. but it will be completely based on scripture. Scripture is the road map for christians. Looking at particular passages and how they apply...

I will enjoy the tine :) :) :) Wonder if that is some kind of plant ? :):)

Hi David, thanks for the info. Yeah almost all forums get heated. I've been on a few :)

Well.. meditating on scripture daily.. and then God will speak to your soul through that. Eg.. You meet someone in need and then scripture you were studying/thinking on comes to mind through God prompting. I don't personally hear an audible voice from God.. but get guidance through the...

Hello all, im new here :) Thought I would chime in on seeking a church. If a church isn't going by scripture, I wouldn't join it. For eg... sermons always topical and not much scripture in them... congregation members treating it like a social club... the music band is the main focus and...