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sure....we will just have to agree to disagree. I never said strong's dictionary does not meet the basic definition of a dictionary. My point was that it doesn't meet the scholarly sense of a true lexicon because it provides only glosses - 1 or 2 word english equivalents, and not an exhaustive...

I disagree with the way you used the analogy. Birth pains do not signal that the birth is far off. That’s not a thing. The beginning of Birth pains signal the birth is in process of happening or closer to happening. Grammatically or linguistically why should “the end is not yet” be...

No, strongs is not a dictionary in that sense, and should not be used as such. The “definitions” provided by strongs concordance are “glosses”, and in the example you provided for g3778, it’s just a list of words, as to how it’s found translated into English without contextual usage. “This...

You seem to be arguing “not yet” means “not near”. That’s not true grammatically. You haven’t addressed this. The olivet discourses are harmonious, but not identical. “All these things” is context dependent, not “harmonizing dependent”. The gospel authors are making different points about the...

After further reviewing several lexicons and usages, I can concede, that grammatically, "this" is ambiguous enough to point spatially near to Jesus contemporary audience OR contextually near to those living through Matthew 24:4-33 Sure, then please show grammatically and/or contextually (not...

You are missing my point. I said redundant because of the way it was explained. Its redundant to say "the generation that sees all these things will not pass away until all these things occur". After further reviewing several lexicons and usages, I can concede, that grammatically, "this" is...

Not necessarily. Birth pains indicate the end is not now, not that it is not near. In other words. The beginning of birth pains (war, famine, pestilane, etc...) do not indicate the end has been realized. There is no requirement that the beginning of birth pains means that end is not near. You...

Right, you provided the "definition" from Strong's Exhaustive concordance. Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance isn't a lexicon in the traditional sense. The so-called “definitions” it provides are more accurately glosses—brief English equivalents that reflect how the King James Version (KJV)...

My point was that reading “this generation” to mean “the generation that sees all these things will not pass away until all these occur” is redundant. It would be redundant to read Matthew 23 - the generation on whom all this righteous blood shed falls will not pass away until all the...

They are the beginning of birth pains, which is often used metaphorically in scripture to signify coming change- plain and simple. The birth pains of wars, famine, earthquakes, etc… don’t, ALONE, indicate the end is yet. It’s WHEN you see ALL these things (vs 4-8 PLUS vs 9-29) THEN you know...

My point is that it’s not a natural reading or flow - the generation that sees all these things will not pass away until all these things happen - It’s redundant and circular. Contextually, the events of the Olivet discourse include events of the destroy of Jerusalem. Grammatically there is no...

You provided strongs concordance (which is not a lexicon) stating that “Houtos” can mean “this or that”. Strong’s includes “this or that” to reflect how translators render Greek INTO ENGLISH, not to imply that the Greek word means both equally. “Houtos” is a demonstrative pronoun. It points...

Jesus isn’t giving an obgyn lecture. You are taking the analogy way too literally. While it’s true that birth pains don’t signal immediate delivery, Jesus didn’t say they did. He said they mark the beginning of the process that leads inevitably to the end. That’s what the metaphor means — and...

Global events? Vs 4-8 are not required to be “global”. I agree that those events can be included in “all these things” in Luke 21:36 Where does it mention every eye will see him in the olivet discourse? Luke 21 doesn’t mention a gathering - so grammatically and contextually, that would not...

So are you saying that “this generation” just means “the generation that sees all these things will not pass away until all these things take place”? That’s kind of redundant. It’s already implied that there will be a generation living through the events with phrase “shall not pass away until...

Jerusalem was not yet being “trampled” when Jesus gave the olivet discourse. “Will be” is a future tense verb, passive - meaning Jerusalem will in the future exist in a “state of”. Trampled is a present tense participle - Meaning it’s a continuous action related to the main verb. So all...

Again vs 4-8 do not say - “the end is not near”. Vs 4-8 say the end is “not yet”, and that they are the beginning of birth pains Birth pains: “The term "birth-pangs" is used metaphorically in the Bible to describe intense suffering or distress that precedes a significant event or...

chronology of the OD is much less important if it’s summed up with “this generation will not pass away until ALL these things happen”. In other words, it Doesn’t really matter the exact order, if they ALL happen before “this generation passes away”. But if you believe that the coming of the...

in vs 4-8, It doesn’t say the end “is not near”. It says the end “is not yet”. Vs 4-8 were just the beginning of birth pains, with more things still yet to follow before the end. The apostles generation lived through the events of vs 4-8. As to vs 9-24, the apostles’ generation lived through...

To be fair, you also draw invisible dividing lines in the text, jumping with 70ad and +2000 years later. Covenantee just does it in one spot. I think you do it in 2 spots? Right, according to your framework he didn’t. So your negotiation is to draw invisible divine lines. Oh definitely...