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  1. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It's not entirely your fault, but it is your responsibility to break free from the mess you inherited. All I've done is shine a bright light on the false christ and compared him to the Real One!
  2. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It has been presented to you in a way I have never done for anyone else in a forum, yet it still fails to break through your mental resistance. Which is the reason you cannot receive how to be "in" Christ! No, he is a creation of many men's imaginations, designed to craft a god-man that...
  3. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The Trinitarian influence runs deep in Johann, and his confidence is placed not in the revealed work of God, but in his numerous commentaries and the writings of church fathers. He is an example of the defiant Christian in the last days, one who will persecute rather than praise the one who...
  4. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Such a statement can only come from someone who has run out of points to make. Your theology has been exposed repeatedly, and this is the only response you have left. My Christ can save me from the Law of Sin and Death. Yours cannot! You should, in humility, acknowledge this, repent of the...
  5. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    And you are saying you also have emptied yourself of this Divine Power? Try again....
  6. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    In the end, it means that the Trinitarian is unable to truly identify with the Lord Jesus Christ because they have transformed Him into something he is not. F2F
  7. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You've made your beliefs clear in this forum, so don't play coy, Johann!
  8. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Wrangler @APAK You both realize those last two posts cannot be refuted! Johann knows he cannot present a Christ in which the Law of Sin and Death has been removed while maintaining dualism. He cannot explain the shared weakness we have with Christ because, in his view, Christ couldn’t be...
  9. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Wow did you catch that Scott? @David in NJ What weaknesses do you and the Lord share? 2 Corinthians 13:4-5 For Jesus was crucified in weakness, but lives by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but in dealing with you we will live with him by the power of God. Examine yourselves, to...
  10. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Wrangler @APAK @Johann READ CAREFULLY PLEASE! Johann's issue, along with many others, arises from the belief in a misleading fallacy—that the nature of Christ could NOT exist independently, without the support of Deity. Adam had only one nature, which could stand in no other way...
  11. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It doesn’t matter how you spin it, Johann—you cannot demonstrate dualism. The key piece is missing! The Scriptures reveal that your Master could sin and had sinful flesh. If you persist you may as well grab the couch and turn on the TV! F2F
  12. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Wrangler @APAK, entertain a thought with me for a moment. If, when the Master returns, it becomes clear that he is not God or the Deity, what do you think the ramifications would be on earth? Here is what my son wrote concerning this last post! "Kinda shows you how weak and brittle their...
  13. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    So Mr Trinny is back again wanting to settle this matter of Christ being able to sin or not! So here is what a full blooded Trinitarian must believe if they are to maintain their stand. The above statement suggest that Christ’s ability to be tempted is not the same as his ability to sin. He...
  14. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @ProDeo Utilitarians are individuals who follow the philosophy of Utilitarianism, a moral theory primarily associated with philosophers like Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill Clearly you meant Unitarian. F2F
  15. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I'm not sure I understand your point here, Jane. Unitarians believe in a single all-powerful God (Deity) and certainly do not support Universalism. Maybe you are thinking of Universalism because JW's are Unitarians. F2F
  16. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    HC, this is also why the concept of a preexistent Christ /Angel is challenging – He was made lower than the angels, yet he now has a name superior to theirs. The book of Hebrews clearly states that no angel has ever been called "THE Son of God": "For to which of the angels did God ever say...
  17. face2face

    When the Son of Man Comes:

    @Keraz I saw on your website that you have an understanding of the second exodus. Do you align with the Jubilee Period in relation to the events surrounding the Lord's return?
  18. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Hmmmm I just saw something change in that post David? Must had a change of heart! F2F
  19. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The two opposing ideas are similar to the concepts of the Trinity and the Hypostatic Union. It's no surprise this perspective comes from someone who holds a Trinitarian belief.
  20. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    :kiaora:Mr. Trinny has made another questionable comment, and we need to address the flawed reasoning behind it. "To say that Christ could not sin is not tantamount to maintaining He could not be tempted." Alright, Mr. Trinny, if, as you say, Christ could not sin, can you explain the purpose...