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In the same way that God (Yahweh) was present in all the prophets and kings of the Old Testament, through their obedience to the commandments in spirit and truth. Do you think that has changed? Abraham did not know Christ in the way that you think you do, yet the Gospel was preached to him...

Wow the importance of understanding the red text given what we have shown you on his nature is essential knowledge for salvation. If you dare to look at what we have "in" & "with" him you would be astounded! F2F

There isn't any!

Go easy with David, I think you have spanked him so hard you have bruised his brain! I've not laughed this hard for a long long time - thank you Pierac! F2F

Out of interest at what age did you leave school, or were asked to leave?

The boredom in this thread has driven me to create my own Trinitarian apologist, whom I will name Mr. Trinny. sml Mr Trinny states: "First of all, the hypostatic union gave the world an impeccable Person. This predicates of Christ, mark you, not only anamartesia ("sinlessness"), but...

The Trinity and the hypostatic union are among the most difficult doctrines in systematic theology. The difficulties originate from several sources: The doctrines are distinctive of theology, they are a mystery beyond human comprehension, adequate methodology to study them is lacking, and no...

"And now the Lord says, he who formed me from the womb to be his servant..." (Isaiah 49:5, ESV) God, the one who formed His Son in the womb! You can't fully understand Philippians without recognizing the prophecies in Isaiah, as this is clearly where Paul's thoughts were when writing the...

The Logos became flesh—the outward Divine expression of God's inner thought! I'm truly in awe of how you get tangled up in the concept of Logos. Everything that was created has come from the Logos!

It's long been the closed minded who missed him!

The preconcieved knowledge overides the skill to discern! Correct. They know this Wrangler, I have no doubt about it, as sure as the Jews knew Jesus was the Son of God when they killed him, they knew! Agree Yes its a term used in Chemistry, a combing of elements to make a compound which...

Actually there will be many gods with a small "g" but only One Almighty God David.

Haha, Pro – coming from someone who never once explained his "Son of Man in Heaven" theory. It's just like Johann with his dualism – another unexplainable mystery lost in the abyss of the Trinity. Chaulk up another one on the list! F2F

John uses idiomatic language frequently (ho-hum!). I suppose we can provide a few examples. When Jesus spoke to Nicodemus about being "born again," do Trinitarians respond as Nicodemus did? Do they literally seek for "living water"? Do they search for a literal "living bread"? The Son of Man...

After 166 pages of detailed discussion, this is all you have to offer? That section has indeed been thoroughly illuminated by truth! F2F

That’s a timely and convenient response. It’s understandable that you may find it difficult to comprehend how the Son of Man could have come from Heaven, given the apparent contradiction in your understanding. A man in the flesh, the Son of Man, could not have come from Heaven literally as you...

I agree, the concept of the Trinity has profoundly changed the narrative of the Bible by redefining its central figures and presenting a new understanding of God. It's similar to how the Israelites turned to the Golden Calf, while the more learned Eastern and Western Greeks of the time...

You have shown your understanding that the Son of Man (flesh) was in Heaven as a man. What type of flesh did your Son of Man have? F2F

You also believe you have divine nature now Pro?

I needed to understand this idea you have of being born with a dead spirit. I've never heard this before, its new. Man & Woman in nature and life are no different to the animals. So I'm wrestling with how you think you were born with something which is dead. F2F