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On the contrary what we are find is rather startling!

Jesus did not preexist David—what you are referring to is the Shekinah Glory of Yahweh. :gd Get with the program! F2F

Quoting these passages shows Johann's inexperience with the Word.

After his death, yes! But never in the physical temple! F2F

@Johann Only by Jesus' death was he able to enter God's presence in Heaven. The physical temple and the Holiest Place was fobidden to one of the tribe of Judah! Everyone in the forum should know that! F2F

Not once did he enter and not once could he enter with the penalty of death! The Holy of Holies was the most sacred part of the temple, and only the High Priest, once a year on the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur), was permitted to enter it to offer sacrifices for the sins of the people (Leviticus...

Like you and I he was held under the condemnation of death. You should read Romans 6 very carefully Rita, that will help you understand why God did what he did in raising up a son from the fallen line. F2F

@Johann, unfortunately, your doctrine prevents you from recognizing the Master's limitations and infirmities. This places you at a great loss. F2F

Okay, so I had hoped with your Bible in hand it was apparently clear. Jesus was of the tribe of Judah and NOT a Leviticial Priest. For Jesus to go in would have broken the Law which he was born under! "And you shall appoint Aaron and his sons, and they shall guard their priesthood. But if...

Ironically, the very theme you have so much confidence in is where you fell short. Do you remember? It was like Johann asking for a verse to show that Jesus was redeemed, and I provided two. Yet, there’s never any acknowledgment from you (or Johann). You stated the Word of God had nothing to do...

But let your hand be on the man of your right hand, the son of man whom you have made strong for yourself! Psalm 80 This is a beautiful Psalm that connects to Jacob's blessing of Joseph in Genesis 49:22, highlighting God's care for His vine and the vengeance He will bring against those who harm...

@Johann You missed this? The irony is this – Jesus was unable to enter the Holy Place, let alone the Holy of Holies during his probation! Do you know why? Why could your Almighty God not enter a building made with hands? I've tested your spirit more the most Johann, and for the most it...

"the stock that your right hand planted, and for the son whom you made strong for yourself" Psalm 80 Once you see the truth @ProDeo you see it everywhere! F2F

Firstly she will need to heed what the Word of God teaches - I hope she can prepare herself for this.

Rita and I have had numerous discussions, and none of them have shown me that she has any genuine interest in what the Bible teaches—only the many voices that fill her mind. A sharper sword than mine is coming Johann and I hope you are ready to receive its sharpness. F2F

You don't know what light unapproachable means?

Now that's a good question!

You have a great deal of ignorance Rita, said sincerely. 5:19 My brothers and sisters, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone turns him back, 5:20 he should know that the one who turns a sinner back from his wandering path will save that person’s soul (life) from death and will...

Time is short, and we don't have much time left. Our mission is to win the deceived for Christ—snatching them from the fire before it's too late. "Save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh." Jude 1:23...

@Brakelite, traditional views on this subject do not allow for the notion that Christ gained any benefit from his own death, or was exalted due to his act of submission. I pray one day we meet and you are on the right side of this truth! F2F