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You gotta be careful about what you read on any news outlet. There are very few that don't have considerable poetic license in their "journalism." :cool: :hearteyes: .

I think them folks were basically barbarians back then—not refined and enlightened like us. :cool:

I'm awfully sorry to hear about what you're headed into there, Wrang. Been through that a few times recently enough to empathize pretty well, I guess. I'll be praying for you and yours, my friend. :hearteyes: .

I've got to do more to exercise my click control.

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Romans 7 says they are. .

You're saying that the Ten Commandments are something different from what people have always known they were, which is a preposterous thing to expect rational people to believe. Your hobby horse is just fringe weirdness. Sorry, but it's true and arrogant persistence is going to get you nowhere...

Non-denominationalism, which has morphed into anti-denominationalism with the advent of the misinformation superhighway, is all the rage these days. More like live and let die, I'd say. o_O :hearteyes: .

He lives 600 miles from me, and I knew nothing of his trouble at the time it happened. I can't police my denomination, as much as it is demanded of me hereabouts. .

He was asking for considerably more than "the very smallest financial help possible," which is considerably less than what he got. He was not satisfied. I have heard of cases of abuse such as you're suggesting even within my own denomination. Again, is a belief system to be judged by its...

And in the native languages of more than a billion people the world over, the word for "Saturday" is some form of the word "Sabbath." (Sorry, the forum software didn't seem to like me putting two images in one post. :) ) :hearteyes: .

But it was God who gave numbers to the days of the week and the US Naval Observatory assures that the weekly cycle has never been broken, which stands to reason, largely because there is no reason in the heavens for its existence. :hearteyes: .

Zig, forgive me, but you seem to be intent on claiming that the Sabbath day is anything and everything except what it actually is. There's not a word in this post that says Jesus is God's Sabbath until the end—where you simply declare that He is. I don't understand it. I just don't understand...

I knew a guy (in fact he's a regular at the other big forum) who admitted to me on the public part of the forum, no less, that he left the church because his business failed and he actually expected the church to bail him out because of all the tithe and "work" he'd put in. Not realizing, of...

That's pretty charitable of you, old chum. Just be aware that Adventism has its fringe elements and I think it was Socrates who said that no belief system should be judged by its abuse. ;) (which is what characters like Mosko are all about) :hearteyes: .

Well, I often lose track of which thread I'm in. Sorry :( Wait, you're trying to throw me off track. What if a fella had nothing but the the Bible, huh? Hey, and don't tell me it doesn't happen. If I've heard one of those stories I've heard a hundred. Yeah, two can play that game. :p I would...

So requoting is really cool 'cause ya don't have to say "I agree, but..." (Wait... I just did.) So, yeah, but having a Bible in hand would seem to render a body a little more accountable for their intents and purposes, wouldn't ya think? :hearteyes: .

I don't disagree with any of this enough to argue with a pal about it. But I'm sure we both see this in terms of both time and space. (I'm hoping nobody pounces on me because I don't think all the people who were born in the wrong country are doomed.) From the sound of that last comment, I'm...

Well, okay, Pal :cool: , re: the gem and all (my understanding is that the faith of God was of oral tradition mostly before Moses), but I've seen this question from you before and it still doesn't make a whole lotta sense to me. o_O :hearteyes: .

That's very edifying. And typical. .