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AMEN, MG! Which effectively dissolves assurance of God's determination to save us. It's so ironic that what is supposed to give assurance of salvation actually gives none at all. If I know that I could be deceived into thinking I am irrevocably saved once and for all and later return to a...

This question really puzzles me. I don't think King James managed to get the Bible into the hands of every believer who wanted one. The Catholic church had the Bible and forbade the common people from having it. But Protestants (before they were called such) had portions of Scripture and...

For the record, I think He meant the Torah. But we're no longer communicating in any meaningful way. It is very unpleasant to me. You are entitled to your abstract view of divine law. I am entitled to disagree. .

Well, I think you know full well what I was asking for and that you can't produce such a document, but if you want to use THE DOCUMENT OF DOCUMENTS, then making a refutation of your claims is just that much easier: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+4%3A15&version=NKJV...

Who are "the Saturday peoples?" And where's the proof that they "demand" things of anyone? I don't care if people demand things of me on Internet forums because they can't make me do anything and if I don't want to hear their demands I can put them on the ignore list or log off because I put...

I have no idea what most of this means. A lot of it seems like rhetoric. And, frankly, some of it seems vain. .

I don't think it matters what I believe about whether someone else is "saved" or not, and if I did, their denomination would certainly have nothing to do with it. .

This has been explained so many times, there's hardly any need for anyone to be exhibiting this attitude. The laws that Adventists, in particular, keep from the Torah are only the ones that support the principles contained in the Ten Commandments. We don't believe we have any right to practice...

Enforce? It's clear that you don't know me at all. Why would that offend me? I really don't understand your attitude. Either you know whether they had such an objection or not. Perhaps you'd rather not say. Like I said, I've done hundreds of surveys. The hostility towards the Sabbath that...

All any of this proves is that Moses included the Ten Commandments in the book of the law placed in the side of the ark. So what? Shouldn't it have been part of the instruction to the children of Israel? Is there any record of laws regarding Levitical rites, civil statutes, or health...

I don't address everyone and every circumstance in the same way. That might pose difficulties for your practice. For one thing, the Sabbath isn't part of the Levitical system and, secondly, I internalize the Sabbath like you could hardly imagine. What are my rights? I wasn't speaking for...

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I see you're having some personal conflict with other Adventists. Try to keep in mind that we're not identically programmed robots. I don't hesitate to speak harshly to folks who won't seem to have it any other way, but I never call into question other people's standing with God or their love...

I didn't say his grandparents were Sabbath-keepers. And I wouldn't speculate that yours were, either. But I don't think it's much of a stretch to suspect they didn't believe any of the anti-Sabbatarian nonsense that gets loaded onto this board. If I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time...

He also said that He came not to bring peace but a sword and that if you don't hate your parents, you're not worthy of Him. Are you going to argue with ultra-literal readings of those statements? I think so, most likely. 100-year-old (Christian) Doctor Of Public Health John Scharffenberg says...

It is an argument of implied logic, Zig, and is not meant to be taken literally. I'm sorry you don't understand but I'm not saying what you're inferring and I can't change my way of expression to suit individual people—even one as nice and good-hearted as you. :) Hugs :hearteyes: .

Do you know how you can tell a teacher of truth from a false prophet? By their fruit You don't even care if anyone believes you. You've said as much countless times. Everything's a LOL, right? I often feel compelled to talk to people harshly, but I beg God every day to make me care enough...

They didn't say anything about keeping any of the Ten Commandments, except for the 2nd and the 7th. Does that mean we're free to have other God's, take His name in vain, dishonor parents, murder, steal, lie, covet? Or are you still going with the special pleading fallacy that God must chew His...

You can say that again. .

Just another funny. You've been trying to explain the Exodus 34 thing for a few years and God doesn't seem anxious to make that plain to anyone else, either. Correct me if I'm wrong. .