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  1. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Did He really? Young's LITERAL Translation.disagrees along with a hundred other bibles This was the same Young who wrote YOUNG"S Hebrew/Greek Concordance for the Bible. But Strong's became more popullar because his definition agreed with the TIMES he LIVED IN theologically more than the...
  2. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    What if this was 'written' in the bible? JER 8:8 "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. We have a lot of Holdeman Mennonites in our area. They too are very much KJV only...brethren that I love...
  3. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Agreed with all you said, but have a question on this one point. WHO does the book/bible say the 'Lake of fire" was made for? MAT 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: So, it appears...
  4. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    I'm curious as to your take on 'the bible' concerning 'your opinion'? JOH 20:23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."
  5. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    I still think it goes back to some kind of 'application' type difference between RELATIONSHIP and FELLOWSHIP. The prodigal son did not feel "WORTHY" to be called a son....but he always was, wasn't he? Here at the beginning of 1Joh we run into the opposite of what was said in 1Joh 3. 1JO 1:6...
  6. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    1PE 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed/SPORA, but of incorruptible (sperma), by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1JO 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed/SPERMA remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 4701...
  7. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Yes, I too believe that there were many demons. But when the demoniac spoke, the words were from the 'strongman' who was the head demon/evil spirit of the thousands in the demoniac. But 'Legion' simply was a rank. Just like MAJOR commands a 1000 (?) and COLONEL commands 5,000 (?). But the...
  8. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    OK I believe that the one named Legion was the 'strongman' spirit. And the name Legion represented the authority level of that rank. Yes, I too have gone through a few deliverance conferences. But I also have dealt with some by 'starving them out' / "fleeing temptation" and some by 'crowding...
  9. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    YLT EZE 18:4 Lo, all the souls are Mine, As the soul of the father, So also the soul of the son - they are Mine, The soul that is sinning - it doth die.
  10. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    I guess some things are just better 'caught' than 'taught'. And I don't know what else to say. In the movie; THE GREEN MILE' when they called the inmates on DEATH ROW...."DEAD MAN WALKING"....what did it mean? Were they physically dead, spiritually dead? Or did they just have a DEATH SENTENCE...
  11. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    If it has any application at all, it means you will die someday physically in the FLESH just like Jesus did. But nobody really KILLED Jesus. He released His spirit...the Christ spirit in Him to the Father. AND then He breathed his last breath and was JAM 2:26 For as the body apart from the...
  12. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Been claiming that thing for years. So either DEBATE me or BELIEVE me Bro. :Broadly: COL 2:13 And you, who were dead in trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, Where is the qualifying word...that being...
  13. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Adam never died spiritually He walked like ENOCH walked perfectly, but Adam did so, only after committing that one sin. He walked 970 years. Enoch walked perfectly never having lived in the Garden and therefore God took him. Nobody lost the chance to remain in "the presence of the Lord". Not...
  14. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    You believe in the curse was spiritual death????? I've said this a hundred times and you've never said anything contrary, that i remember; "Adam and Eve did not die spiritually!" In fact; they actually gave access to another spirit, when they opened the door of temptation to another spirit...
  15. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    He would have lived as long as the life He came to give to us. Physical Immortality, His spirit like, all spirits was eternal to begin with.. and His ‘situation’ is the eternal glorified body of ‘the WORD BECAME FLESH. And He sits at the right hand of the Father. IMO. .
  16. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    therefore a sinless accomplice in 'the sin nature' with those who did sin; 1JO 3:5 You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. again a sinless accomplice with those who did sin; 1PE 2:22 He committed no sin; no guile was found on his lips. still a sinless...
  17. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Wasn't that begotten son's "body"/"flesh" formerly 'God the WORD'? Kind of why I was alluding to the "suicide" angle. From your previous 716 post; You never dealt with the question from my last text; "Or is this where someone who drove the getaway car gets charged for murder, when someone...
  18. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    'Letter of the law' counselor. ;) ; God didn't "brutally punish" Jesus....the Jews and the Romans did. JOH 19:10 Pilate therefore said to him, "You will not speak to me? Do you not know that I have power to release you, and power to crucify you?" 11 Jesus answered him, "You would have no...
  19. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Same thing that made him create Satan to begin with. Being omniscient, He knew 'the end before the beginning', of Satan and us. :hmhehm
  20. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Being born with a sin nature, and being a sinner is two different things. The sin nature actually comes before birth, in the womb, before a sin is ever committed. Unless a 'sinful flesh' fetus kicking its mamma in the gut counts. Might want to ask a 'mother to be' if she'd send her fetus to...