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  1. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    I don't receive 'that word' brother. :Oh no: Thank you 'my "friend" 75 in 9. But it's been the toughest year of my life....both spiritually and physically. I would not be surprised if I am not 'older' than you. ;) Be blessed in your university calling Carl. The AGE that the spotless...
  2. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    I think I'm embarrassing myself. I'm sitting here eating and asked the wife If you were talking about our 51st wedding anniversary....but that was a couple of months ago, and how would you know? Then I o_O saw where it was posted. Wow Steve, you impressed me that you saw it. Right now I'm...
  3. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Carl, long time no see/hear. Hello Bro!! :pfite: Are you still talking about being on 'the OLD CF forum', The one where I got 'the left foot' of fellowship, after 10 years and over 5,000 posts. Why, someone 'might' ask? Well, they 'decided' I was not a Christian. Wow, talk about...
  4. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Ha ha, You had me second guessing. :Broadly: It looks like he's still in business. :pfite: With and email, you just might have to check and see and see if there's a book called 'The Unknowing Cloud'. EDIT; forgot to post it. And last time I was there decades ago, it was his son who had the...
  5. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Maybe there are prophets speaking here, calling out the translations of false profits???? I found the following quote in a USED 'Christian book store' in Kansas City 30 years ago; I thought he spoke it well. "In the past, men of God, moved by the Spirit of God, wrote down what God laid on...
  6. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Of course we do. If you believe we are a trinity our whole person is spirit, soul, flesh. But the real question is, does your soul listen to your born again spirit, or does it listen to your sin natured flesh? Don't forget where deconstruction got its start. OT JER 8:8 "How can you say...
  7. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Yes, that is definitely "MORE CORRECT" IMO. Oh yes, push back from several directions. But always one's I back with scripture and biblioliters don't deal with well at all IMO. You bring up a point. Your point was "overcome temptation". And here is my scripture JAM 1:13 Let no one say when...
  8. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    I'm real curious as to whether you and I are tracking the same, which is a real surprise if we are. JOH 4:24 God is spirit, Luke 24:39 "a spirit has not FLESH AND BLOOD" I think that the creational WORD was God which was spirit. The Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit were "spirit". And...
  9. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Jack Taylor , now deceased, was considered 'a pastor to pastors' and our pastor met him at a conference, years ago, where Pastor Kent invited him to come speak at our little church in western Kansas. He did, 3 times over several years, every time a delight. A small group of us were invited to...
  10. Hillsage

    Source or Resource? - Understanding the difference

    Nope, I think we think pretty much the same. I just know that from my 2 years in jail ministry every week, how many jailhouse conversions took a 'similar' verse which I quoted earlier with the same word in it. 2TI 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be...
  11. Hillsage

    Source or Resource? - Understanding the difference

    Yes they did, and that's the point we are making I think. I always say don't worship the 'book of God', worship the 'God of the book'. That's the problem I think Steven made initially. We have too many translations being made GOD by people here. Whereas I study lots of translations hoping...
  12. Hillsage

    Source or Resource? - Understanding the difference

    O boy, here we go already. I really don't like the NIV on this verse. Compare the single Greek word translated as "test and approve" in the NIV, in comparison to KJV, NKJ, RSV, NAS and YLT where they all have the same 'one word' "PROVE". By Strong's definition the single Greek word means...
  13. Hillsage

    Source or Resource? - Understanding the difference

    When there was only 'the church' under the original apostles and the 5 fold ministry and elders at the local levels the gospel went to the world. But when the church of Rome took over and progressively controlled the NT writings I think things went awry. To the point that the people had no...
  14. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    I have to admit that I found 2 in my 52 years as a believer that I truly learned the most from. I called them both the 'anointed pens' in my life. The first one being my foundational years, until the mid 80's and the other from then until his death last year. I believe the first one was...
  15. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    That's almost profound....or maybe prophetic. Certainly has me thinking.
  16. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Is it a problem? :r.u.n: Only since the original author of each of the books died. What's the solution? JOH 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to...
  17. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    READS DIFFERENT? What name is on your bible? Is it KING JAMES? If YES, then tell me why it's different below compared to 4 other translations AND with itself? If your bible is KJV, do you want to know another verse IN YOUR BIBLE which translates the same Greek word "REMIT/APHIEMI" as...
  18. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    The importance of the book REALLY is revealed when our scripture disagrees with their scripture. So of what value is there really, in the bibles 900 different ENGLISH translations? Translations which have shattered OUR relationships with the ONE CHURCH that "the author" sees, when He looks...
  19. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    You obviously did nothing to back why MY scriptural quote disagrees with your scriptural quote. And you obviously didn't deal with how Jesus could have SPOKEN the word HELL out of his mouth when that word didn't even exist until 775 AD. There are THREE, 3 Greek words that get translated as...
  20. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Philosophically it does "make sense" to me. As to the scriptural based question I asked, not so much. :no reply: I was hoping for more of a 'spiritual truth' analogy backed with even more scripture than I just shared, asking the question. IOW, something plumbing the depths of what you shared...