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  1. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    This is your problem, confirmation bias! Learn from God's Word Johann and don't invest your salvation in the wisdom of men. F2F
  2. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @ProDeo This is one of the questions I had for Johann but he couldnt provide an answer, maybe you would like to give it a try? It was the power of the Most High that "overshadowed" Mary (Luke 1:35). However, if the Holy Spirit were considered a Person within the Godhead, then it would be the...
  3. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Let me help you here... Ananias may not have realized that his actions were a lie to God, but all sin, whether large or small, is a violation of the divine law of obedience and truth (see Jas. 2:10; Psa. 51:4). He had intended to offer to God and had apparently made this clear to the ecclesia...
  4. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    plenty of gods in training though!
  5. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    He is no-god man!
  6. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Consider the facts. You have been shown many references to the true nature of Christ and not only have you been unable to speak to any of those verses, you remain deliberately unaware of them. How can I draw to this conclusion? You continue to repeat the same mistake without learning the...
  7. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    If it's true and it causes you to question why it's true, then it must be said for your own benefit. Many in this thread are opposing themselves... and you are one of them. F2F
  8. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You restrict plurality to your Trinity definition (which is unbiblical!), whereas the concept of God working through the Elohim is Biblical and represents countless agents. Consider the Name-Bearing Angel, or figures like Michael, Gabriel, and all the angels. It's your MO to disregard how God...
  9. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You are a self fulfilling prophecy - can you see now why the crucifixion is foolishness to the Greeks? God didn't teach His people truth through grammar and syntax! Your contribution to this thread and topic has already run its course; I was slow to recognize the signs. I'd be relieved if you...
  10. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I’m at a loss for words :doldrums:, APAK. It’s clear to everyone, perhaps even those of his perspective in this forum, that he needs to set aside his current practices and start over with the Milk of the Word. F2F
  11. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Why would you again choose a verse which has known translation issues? Is it your goal tonight to try and rewrite every difficult passage and twist it into the Nicene Creed? You (Jesus) have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. So God, your God, has anointed you over your companions...
  12. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You mean like here: 2 Corinthians 1:3 - "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort." Ephesians 1:3 - "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in...
  13. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You rely too heavily on syntax and grammar, overlooking historical, cultural, and logical aspects of the text. While syntax is important for language understanding, interpreting scripture cannot be achieved without considering its context, the Jewish natuer of the hope (cultural context), and...
  14. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    This is strong delusion - you have it bad Johann! The development of the doctrine of the Trinity unfolded relatively quickly, with early Church Fathers like Tertullian (circa 200 AD) and Hippolytus (circa 225 AD) contributing to its formation. The formal definition, however, was established at...
  15. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I get the feeling you would have made a fine Nicene council member! It feels like you're pulling out all sorts of tricks, Johann, using every tool in your repertoire to twist the text in order to make it conform to your beliefs. This approach can make it difficult to engage with the actual...
  16. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You misrepresent both God and Christ in one sentence - I see how some call this idolatry.
  17. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It's clear you don't understand oneness.
  18. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You provide an example of Jesus post-resurrection going to be with His Father, but this doesn't address Christ's growth in wisdom and knowledge, or the fact that he only knew what his Father chose to reveal to him. I need a holiday from this site. F2F
  19. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    So you are now saying the Saints will be God? Where does this madness end Lux? Where did you ever get the idea that oneness equals Godhead? I know, its the false doctrine of the Trinity. It just destroys a sincere mind - I hate it, I really do. F2F
  20. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Quote "The key to understanding Jesus’ seeming lack of knowledge in this matter lies in the nature of the Incarnation" O boy, is this what we are dealing with now? How many lies upon lies will you build your faith upon RLT?