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@LuxMundi “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven. Matt 18:10 Do you think if the angels "see the face" of God they are one with Him? Bless the LORD, O you his angels, you mighty...

I felt there were some very interesting points in here but next maybe reduce to 3 so its easier to reply. I started but it was well over the word count. F2F

@LuxMundi Furthermore, you don't believe that the Saints can be one with God and Jesus in the same way they are one. The only way a person can achieve this oneness is by being transformed through the divine nature, the same nature that the Angels already possess!—sharing the same glory...

It's clear you can't put the records together. I'm happy to leave you in your willing ignorance for now. F2F

You're funny is an annoying sort of way! For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven Mark 12:25 You seem to be resisting the Masters word at every post. One Lux One! It's crazy how Christians profess to know God yet have no...

Angels don't need praying for to be one with God and Jesus as they already share this - they are divine beings...but your avoidance is noted lol

I meant essence in terms of three divine beings being seperate i.e God one essense in one location; Jesus with another essense in another location (duality as well!) and the HS the same. Understand? Three essence's (nature) but one. The Master can teach you... that all of them may be one...

Out of curiosity, Pierac, setting aside your current beliefs, if you were a Trinitarian, could you explain how you might reconcile why Jesus needed to be a person who learned and why he had limited knowledge of God's plans in Heaven? It seems evident that Jesus did not know the full historical...

Not just human reason. It was revealed to them that they were serving not themselves but you, in the things that have now been announced to you through those who preached the good news to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels long to look. 1 Peter 1:12 I believe...

Because the two examples presented you rejected, you also replied by saying God could not communicate the Godhead through a syllogism. I believe you have since clarified this though. F2F

I mean essence in the sense of nature. But I understand you are right in your definition. Yes, it is clear that God operates through a plurality of being who are called angels and saints in training! F2F

We have fully explored how Jesus cannot be God the Son so no point in dealing with that again. We did touch on God the Holy Spirit, and I believe there are at 6-7 seperate questions still unanswered in this thread which I can repost....Johann couldn't answer them, but maybe you would like to...

I'm releived by some of your answers, thanks! Do you still beleive God is incapable to communicating to us by a logcal framework? That was my original question. God's reasoning is rooted in His perfect wisdom, justice, and omniscience, unlike human reasoning, which is often limited by our...

It's self-deception Pro! A lot of it is going on in this thread... Can also present as avoidance

Bible Truth If Christs essence was 100% mortality and it was changed to 100% immortal nature then the conundrum of the Trinity is plain for all to see. The creedal Trinity States “one essence, but three essences”, “numerically one, but also numerically three”, “one person, but not one...

Understanding the New Creation in Christ Jesus is paramount to having the Original Gospel in your possession! And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:18 After he had provided...

Scroll back another 8 verses - Jesus told Mary, "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God" (v. 17). Since Jesus was to ascend to His God, it’s clear that He was not Himself "Very God." I think you are missing some cultural context to Thomas' words but I'll let you...

Nice point on John 20:31!

Brakelite claimed he could provide evidence for the Master's preexistence, but I have yet to see it. I've explained Christ's nature in the clearest terms, emphasizing that it's impossible for Christ to be divine while being clothed in human nature. Here's what I believe: Most Christians have...

Correct Also J. you replied to me this time so no whining about being tagged! You also have at least 7 messages to reply on the HS. Correct Not sure why you are sharing this Johann all very straight forward! I wish you would do this with the Shema! Why don't you practice these study...