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  1. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @ProDeo You guys are quite amusing as you scour the Scriptures searching for your cherished Trinity. It seems we've moved past the NT and are now working our way back into the Old Testament. Then you will escape through my mountain valley, for the mountains will extend to Azal. Indeed, you will...
  2. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    First I've seen this. Would you like to explain what you think Zech 12 speaks of?
  3. face2face

    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    You didn't answer the question. Why did Jesus who you believe is God accept "good teacher?" Have a go...it won't hurt
  4. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    In other words, we’re not given all the details, and that’s perfectly fine. We don’t need to know everything, only what has been revealed to us. As for Jesus representing us in every way, yes, we are provided with a wealth of information on this subject. It must be significant! F2F
  5. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It's only head knowledge so clearly not that important to you. Go with your heart! F2F
  6. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Lizbeth And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus. This is all we are told, right? F2F
  7. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Lizbeth, I understand there was a conception I just don't know how the miracle happened. We are not told...right?
  8. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Wrangler @APAK In all my time in this forum, I've never experienced anything like this conversation with Ritajanice. I mean I don't even know where to start. Please help! Post 1963 "my word!" F2F
  9. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I don't know how the conception took place. It sounds like you do. Show me this "divine seed" F2F
  10. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I already answered it!
  11. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    14 Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. 16 For surely it is not angels he...
  12. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Are you not reading the posts? You appear to be upset without a clear reason. Are you okay?
  13. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Precisely where am I not being honest? I'm answering your questions. F2F
  14. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Ritajanice There is another aspect to why Jesus called himself the Son of Man. Daniel saw “one like the Son of Man” into whose hand judgement was committed” Daniel 7:13-14 (ESV): 13 "I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man (Symbolic...
  15. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The verses that signify Jesus was born into fallen humanity are seen in the Psalms: Psalm 8:4 – "What is man that you are mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him?" Psalm 80:17 – "Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son of man you have raised up for yourself."...
  16. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Ritajanice Well the first thing you should know, is it's a title Jesus gave himself.
  17. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    But you seem so confident that you know how the conception took place. Do tell This is a head shaking moment, really is F2F
  18. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Felt some negative vibes coming through that post. You mean he was a baby boy who grew in wisdom and stature and in favour with God and man, right? But if you can show me a verse that supports your "he was divine", happy to look at it. So you are telling me you do not know what the title Son...
  19. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Yes we know this just not the mechanics! Maybe you have a picture of how this happened? To mean God was the creator of Jesus in Mary's womb. Correct—though the first Adam was formed from the Earth, Jesus inherited a sinful nature through His mother. This is why it was essential for Him to be...
  20. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Was that an unhinged moment? He became divine as the Gospel teaches So this question would prompt me to say you would not know Jesus if you didn't know him as the Son of Man. Jesus is referred to as the "Son of Man" approximately 81 times in the four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John)...