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  1. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Well if you could identify correct your obsession with three's, maybe the door of truth would open for you also? F2F
  2. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Sounds lovely, Brakelite, but no... just as Christ was not literally a lamb slain from the foundation of the world, He is not a literal rock either. I'm sure the imagery isn't lost on your understanding! Also, Christ was not the literal brazen serpent lifted up on a pole in the desert and I...
  3. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    A similar use of language in reference to the Elohim can be found in Genesis 3:22, 11:7, Isaiah 6:8, and other passages. In Genesis 3:22, it is written: "Behold, the man has become like one of us, to know good and evil." Man could not become one of the Trinity, but he could become like one of...
  4. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It's unfortunate that you seem unable to understand that God only creates people capable of reflecting His character through His image and likeness. The Elohim are also in His Image and Likeness - do you understand that? It seems your thinking may be misaligned or not properly attuned to this...
  5. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The work of the sixth day symbolized the pinnacle of God's work in His new creation. In the old creation, man was made in the image of God. In the new creation, we will see the image of Christ fully revealed in the believer: "He shall come to be glorified in his saints" (2 Thess. 1:10). "When...
  6. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them Ge 1:27. It is important to observe the difference in the pronouns used in this verse. The personal, masculine "him" refers to man, who is made in the image of God, while the plural "them"...
  7. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    "In our image" That is, in the image of the Elohim whom the Father used in the work of creation
  8. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Can you see how the Angels are revealed as men in the Bible? This is consistent with the image and likeness spoken of in Gen 1:16. Here are the verses where the word "likeness" is used in connection with Yahweh and the cherubim: Ezekiel 1:5 - "And from the midst thereof came the likeness of...
  9. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Man was created "in the image" of the Elohim, and since they are "sons of God," this image is divine (though the nature of man is not). James emphasizes that "we are made after the likeness of God," "even the Father" (James 3:9). Concerning the Lord Jesus Christ, it is also said that He is "the...
  10. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Yes, the angels are in the image of God which speaks to the "our".
  11. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Cont... "WHOM NO MAN HAS SEEN, nor can see" (1 Tim. 6:15; 1:17). And again, "God is spirit" (John 4:24); and He is "incorruptible" (Rom. 1:23). The INCORRUPTIBLE SPIRIT DWELLING IN LIGHT is the scriptural revelation of the undefinable essence of the self-existent Eternal One, who is from...
  12. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The Oneness is spoken of here: "There is one God and Father of all, who is above all, through all, and in all" Eph 4:6 His spiritual family. Another principle is that "He is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone possesses immortality, dwelling in...
  13. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Correct.
  14. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Correct.
  15. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    multiple individuals or things can be part of one whole, without undermining its unity Correct. Yahweh is the Head of a Divine Family (the whole) He is the Almighty God and beside Him there is none other! He reveals Himself through an agency ie. Angels, Prophets, Kings and Peoples. When...
  16. face2face

    Old members: Where are they now?

    I remember his enthusiasm for the right to bear arms! I think he was an older man 15 years ago... it would be amazing if he logged on from a retirement home and said "gidday"!
  17. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    He's in a difficult situation, Wrangler. He can't get what he's looking for in this forum right now.
  18. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Once again, you are projecting what has already been acknowledged openly in this thread. You are seeking a "deeper study" of your theological view and require a safe place to do that. What is vain about that? I've already stated this cannot be achieved when two diametrically opposed views...
  19. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Hold on, Marks—if the Lord revealed this to you and it was true, would you respond in the same way? When the Apostles encouraged you to contend earnestly for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints, does your reply reflect that same spirit? A waste of time? Are you not...
  20. face2face

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Marks is seeking a "safe place," and I would imagine Johann is as well. As I mentioned to you recently, we have been quite direct in examining the Trinity and have uncovered many flaws in its reasoning. As Paul once penned "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." We have done this...