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I believe you either have the spirit or WILL. But the timing is up to God. Even Satan's job seems to make sure the plan of God for ALL his creation will be accomplished. 1CO 5:5 you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of...

It is sad that the translators can't just seem to translate words consistently; That Greek word is only in the NT 2 times and both are in this chapter. JOH 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions/MONE: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. JOH 14:23...

Joh 1. does not say; JOH 1:14 And the WORD and (THE HOLY SPIRIT) was made JESUS, and dwelt among us, .....

I was very interested in what you posted, even the "cover blown" comment, but just couldn't quite push the 'like'. Don't want to mislead people into thinking I'm agreeing with something 'wrong'....like that could ever happen here. :r.u.n: Your post intrigued me. :Broadly: I hear your...

KJV JOH 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth/"gives life"; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words/rhema that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. So just exactly what "the spirit" above, are we looking at? It is not capitalized in the KJV, RSV, YLT But it is capitalized in...

Agree. The body/flesh/sarx of Jesus came from the logos of God. But not the spirit of Jesus. It did not come from the logos. "God is spirit". The father, the word/logos and the Holy Spirit were spirit. The logos gave up equality with God, as spirit, and became the incarnate Word which had...

That's what I said in the heading (3) Tongues WITHOUT interpretation: The supernatural speaking of a known human language was an unknown tongue/language for the disciples who were speaking. But not to the foreigners who were hearing. I understand and thank you for your kind response.

I googled "how many christian denominations are there" and it said; "Estimations show there are more than 200 Christian denominations in the U.S. and a staggering 45,000 globally, according to the Center for the Study of Global Christianity." Welcome to THE CHURCH. So which distorted...

Let Paul speak for me; 2CO 11:24-28; 24 .......and, apart from other things, there is the daily pressure upon me of my anxiety for all the churches. 29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? I believe scripture supports my OPINION as to why he prayed in tongues. You have presented, an opinion...

Thank you for your honesty. This is a confusing doctrine. The church has been fighting over it for centuries. And IMO the Charismatic theology has plenty of error in their understanding also. To answer your question as simply as I can, let me say this; Yes I am talking about...

You started my reason for quoting John. with your quote below from your post #110. If you're still totally lost then maybe someone else here can hopefully help you. Unless I'm the only one who has a prayer language from God which "no man understands" because it is not an earthly language, it...

Well I guess you're just smarter than the guys who write Greek/English Interlinear bibles. Let me quote from the introduction of one of my Interlinear Greek English bibles. QUOTE: INTERLINEAR GREEK ENGLISH NEW TESTAMENT ZONDERVAN PUBLISHING CO. 1972 Based on STEVENS GREEK TEXT Introduction...

I'm sorry but I'm not going to chase your tail in whatever you just said....you're doing fine all by yourself.

As I have said before; "I believe the CHARISMATIC' church of Corinth was a %100 prayer tongue filled body. Paul wasn't speaking hyperbole as the Fundamentals so strongly teach and believe. KJV 1CO 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and ALL speak with tongues...

Your response simply proves you did not read mine. Or maybe you just did not understand, because I did deal with the Greek words for "gifts" as well as Eph 4:7 and 4:8. The other day the Lord spoke to me and said "It matters not how deep or shallow the waters are, that you are in. What...

JOH 12:28 Father, glorify Thy name.' There came, therefore, a voice out of the heaven, 'I both glorified, and again I will glorify {it};' 29 the multitude, therefore, having stood and heard, were saying that there hath been thunder; .....others said, 'A messenger hath spoken to him.' Some...

Which Hholy Sspirit are you talking about? Are you talking about 'prayer tongues' from the holy spirit of Christ in you for your edification? Or are you talking about 'tongues from the Holy Spirit of God' who is not IN YOU, but pours out his 'holy spirit' power manifestations upon you to be...

The word for "gift" concerning the 5 fold ministry is not "Charisma", it is "Dorea" Eph 4:7 and "Doma" Eph 4:8. The 5 are not spiritual gifts, they are soulish talents. It is how their enchristed brains are wired to think and bring that particular strength to the church as a whole. The 5...

The word "gifts" is not in the Greek in 1 Cor 12:1 1CO 12:1 Now concerning spirituals .... brethren, I would not have you ignorant. Paul said in verse 1 that he doesn't want "brethren" to be ignorant as to who are the "spirituals". Then, in the next verse he makes a comparative between those...

I saw your debate. I've had the same debate (in agreement with you) on another thread with the same person and others. That's why I didn't even bring the "day you eat you die" up in my post. We'll have other things to disagree with I'm sure....just like a thousand denominations who all they...