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I have the unanimous scholarship of virtually every recognized historical orthodox Christian exegete affirming me. There are at least five of them. One or two could be wrong. Five are not wrong. That's good enough for me.

I agree; you've said that Antiochus was not Roman. And you've said that Antiochus was the little horn. But the little horn was Roman. It came up from among ten Roman kingdoms. Daniel 7:7,8

Luke and Matthew are about Daniel 9:27. The armies to which they refer are Roman. Antiochus was not a Roman. The 70 weeks started in 457 BC.

Luke 21:20 identifies the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24:15 and Daniel 9:27 as the Roman armies, not Antiochus. There is 3-way corroboration across these verses. All three refer to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. No Maccabean Jew would have interpreted Daniel 9:27 correctly...

The error arises in attempting to identify the Medes and Persians as separate empires. In historical reality, they united under Cyrus about 549 BC as the single empire of Medo-Persia. It was this united single empire, identified in Daniel 2:39 as "another kingdom inferior to thee", that...

OK. We've expressed our respective views. Thanks.

I want a Calvin or a Henry who agrees with you.

You still haven't cited any recognized historical orthodox support for your view. I've cited two, there are more, and there is full unanimity recognizing Rome as the fourth empire.

Thanks; keep that entertainment coming. :laughing:

The stone demolished all four empires in the same manner, without distinction between the Babylonian and the remaining three, even though the Babylonian was in existence and the remaining three were not. The demolitions did not distinguish, and in history, the fourth empire was Rome. NT...

Please entertain us with some gnosis psychosis. We eagerly await. :laughing:

In your view, God set up His kingdom in each of the days of each of the kings of the Babylonian, Median, Persian, and Grecian empires. There were many kings who ruled some or all of these empires. For example, the Persian empire was ruled by: Cyrus II "the Great" (550-529 BC) Cambyses II...

Anything discerning to add?

The time wasn't fulfilled until Jesus' day, as Mark 1:15 declares.

Mark 1 14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. That wasn't in Daniel's days. That was in Roman days.

1 John 2:18 18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. There is no "person called the antichrist". John identified that as hearsay, then corrected it: "even now many...

During which empire did the God of heaven set up His kingdom?

Daniel 2:37-44 describes the four empires. Daniel 2 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for...

Complete cultic nonsense. Thanks for confirming your confusion.

Just leave what you don't understand for those who do. :laughing: