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@marks on Rife: The following is an excerpt from the book: "The Cancer Cure That Worked", the classic book on the story of Royal Rife written by Barry Lynes: Royal R. Rife, born in 1888, was one of the greatest scientific geniuses of the 20th century. He began researching a cure for cancer in...

I don't see things the way you do, regarding when it happens.

I agree: a new birth, a new spirit. We are born of the S(s)pirit. We are now alive unto God. But this is not born again. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, “You must be born again”’” (John 3:3–7). So Jesus is saying...

That is how I experience it.

I concede on this, you have a good point as I have been experiencing this during my recovery from cPTSD this last few months. Indeed He is an amazing teacher leader and friend.

Please start your own thread for that discussion thank you.

The woman who said you were being judgemental was being so herself.

No I wouldn't like to. I posted a piece I had written on Phil. 3 but you made no comment. You keep posting texts on gradual sanctification when I have said I believe there is a process. It seems to me that nothing useful can be gained by a joint discussion with you. As others are having problems...

11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. Gal 2:11

@GodsGrace "In the second paragraph you state that we never reach a state when we cannot sin if we wish." Meaning, we will always be able to sin if we so wish. Some say we cannot sin again if we are sinless. We can but will not remain in that state and need restoring.

Only in the Latin West. The eastern side ignored him or thought him a heretic.

The problem is that after water baptism, the priest would lay hands on the person and pray for the Holy Spirit to fall on them that is to say, the baptism of the Holy Spirit and freedom from sin. So really it was both together and we know that water does not save, thanks to Peter. I believe...

By the way, there has been an upsurge of interest in scholars over the doctrine and many writings by them can be found online.

These three objections and others have been amply dealt with throughout church history as taken out of context. I have posted on them on this forum and they can be found, the latest on this thread on the Phillipian 3 one. They are easily explained. John Wesley cannot be used as he was not...

Johann makes it sound as though only a fringe believed in entire sanctification in this life which is not true. Apart from it being the main doctrine of the early years that is the first few hundred years before Augustine came along and led the west into many errors, it has continued and been...

1Thess 1:4 says: For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication. It is God's will. Cirumstances do not count because it is through His power alone. All we need is to be willing. If you are felling a bit disturbed sister rejoice because this is...

I am a cessationist too sister. I did not mean that he was unsaved, just pointing out that many Bible scholars are unsaved. Knowing the Bible back to front is not evidence of being led by the Spirit. Agreed that the starting point is not unbelieving Jews but people who have answered the call...

It depends on what you mean by sinless perfection.

Please start your own thread if you wish to discuss OSAS. This thread is about sanctification.

Try the patches or gum. Cigarettes are addictive because of the additives. Do your own research.