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  1. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    Not sure why you quoted my part of the text. If you are disagreeing with me, along with @GRACE ambassador, then I would appreciate knowing to address whatever God has showed me that you don't agree with, same as I don't agree with all you feel God has told you. :pfite: Please answer; As it...
  2. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    Do you ever deal with anything tough? 1CO 2:11 For what person knows a man's thoughts except the spirit of the man which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Sspirit of God. The Greek says above "pneuma tou theou". And the Greek word tou is possessive above...
  3. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    :dusted: No we haven't always existed. Not sure when the Holy Spirit birthed all the spirits which were placed in the dirt bodies of EDEN before the Garden was planted. Just know they were all triune when He finished. And only ONE had an anointed/christo spirit when God took him to the...
  4. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    No, not at all. You are just not as self-Edified AS I am when my spirit prays to God for me instead of me praying with the spiritual ignorance and understanding of my brain with its thoughts "understanding". That's one reason why God offers us that gift and ability. All we have to have is the...
  5. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    I don't believe they could have. The Antichrist church had driven civilization into the DARK AGES. And their dealing with the theology that still impacts the WHOLE CHURCH today was also as poor. spiritually But FLESH never existed before EDEN. "In the beginning" God never had flesh DNA...
  6. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    You aren't even reading the text in context. 1CO 14:4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. Context for this verse is prayer tongues from your "spirit" verse 2. Prayer from you to God for self edification....helps-YOU.
  7. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    Me too, just not the way it was endorsed in 400 AD by the church of Rome. Are you sure? Doesn't say that's His name, even in the context 2 verses earlier. Jesus is not even named that many times in the whole Book of The Revelation. . REV 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his...
  8. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    :Agreed: 0796 astrape: lightning; by anal. glare MAT 24:27 For as the lightning/GLARE comes from the EAST and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man. Not the "son of God" or the "son of David" but the "Son of man".....hmmmm? MAT 28:3 His countenance was like...
  9. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    Wow, read it and agreed and disagreed with so much. But you wrote so much that it was TOOOO much to deal with in this format. Would love to sit at a table and chew the meat together, and spitting out the bones? If we could both agree what was bones. hlo I would just point out one thing...
  10. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    I know. Origin's teachings didn't start with him. And they didn't start spreading at the end of the fourth century. They became so widely accepted they became a threat to the EASTERN ORTHODOX catholic church only. Origin is credited with first systematically teaching and defending the...
  11. Hillsage

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    Origen died around 254 AD, before the formal split between Greek speaking Eastern Orthodox and Latin speaking Western Orthodox. Both were still considered to be the ONE body of Christ catholic church on earth. His controversial views on 'pre-existence of souls' and 'universal salvation' were...
  12. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    You still didn't answer my other question from post 145. "What would the first death have been here." (In Gen 2:17) "And please provide a scripture." "Your corrections" were the first thing I did notice. I believe you know Greek much better than I. But I don't know where to draw the line...
  13. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    It does sadden me to hear your testimony. I say that because this is the 3rd forum I have truly spent at least some time. But nothing like the first two where I amassed thousands of posts before being kicked off And I always majored in the 'Unorthodox" I have always 'tried' to 'first' extend...
  14. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    Hello Jay, I don't see the "second death" mentioned there in Genesis, or any other book until The Revelation. What would the first death have been here in Genesis? And please provide a scripture. I know I give too much when I post, but you are not providing any. Name that/those scriptures you...
  15. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    We know that Jesus paid the price for sin.... • Spiritual death. Did Jesus 'die spiritually' for our sins on the cross? I know of no verse. • Separation from God? What verse backs that? Cain left the presence of the LORD and he wasn't even born in the Garden. Can we assume Adam took the...
  16. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    I have been taught, but not just by listening to teaching about tongues that scared me when I first heard it. I went home and studied it for a week. And I didn't just study by reading the written word, but by letting the Spirit of the spoken word speak to me during that week. Then I got it, a...
  17. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    Sorry, but I just remembered a book I have in my library. It was written by DEREK PRINCE and named FOUNDATIONAL SERIES. It's 600 pages long. On page 204 he names the 4 different baptisms he believes Heb 6;2 is talking about. And the 2nd baptism he deals with, I will quote; "..there is a type...
  18. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    You are from Nairobi in Kenya. What language are you referring to above Brother MJ? :contemplate: If you were a Jew on Pentecost, from where Kenya is now, you would have heard whatever language was spoken 2,000 years ago. What is your Christian experience so far? Do you go to a...
  19. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    1CO 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: He speaks of his spirit's prayer language when he wasn't even in church. 1CO 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an...