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I can't believe that after all these years you still don't get what our view of the binding and the pit is your scenario is meaningless in our binding view we have never had satan in two places at once

It is a total binding if we use the great chain the truth of the gospel. Satan is as good as sealed in the abyss if we choose use it. John 8 31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth...

No I believe that the bottomless pit is real but not a real place it is a spiritual force just like in the verses below Acts 2 Paul’s Vision of the Man of Macedonia 6 Paul and his companions traveled throughout the region of Phrygia and Galatia, having been kept by the Holy Spirit from...

So you do think that the bottomless pit is described as symbolic then? These locus arn't demonice beings they were the Roman army that came against Jerusalem in 70AD as shown below Joel 2 An Army of Locusts 1 Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound the alarm on my holy hill. Let all who live in...

You know full well that we don't think the binding is what you are saying the binding is here

I’ll have to get back to this tomorrow but do you see how symbolic your points are at the beginning A dragon The old serpent A bottomless pit Why are these symbolic and the rest aren’t? Really a bottomless pit? That doesn’t exist that would be a hole

Yes the OT is full of saved people before ethnic Israel started they are true Israel spiritual Israel

You obviously don’t understand what amils believe the binding actually is. I don’t believe what you think I believe in you post. Why is the purpose of the binding for a thousand years if billions of people switch side as soon as satan is released?

Yes amen thanks and yes I can’t understand why premills think literally

Then how do you answer that multiple of millions of people today and since the cross from all of the nations aren't deceived anymore due to the gospel? How do you answer that a room of a handful of people on the day of Pentecost spread the gospel to the whole known world within about 30-40...

Or asking a sensible reasonable question.

That’s my point but the other way around if we have a literal prison why need or use a chain?

No, let me clarify the bottomless pit is symbolic for satan being bound by deceiving us through the truth and the power of the gospel. The gospel reveals the truth to us and if we stay connected to it satan can’t deceive us he might as well be bound in a pit. But he can deceive those who don’t...

It’s a spiritual condition we are warned to stay on guard so that we don’t fall into temptation to sin

But God could just speak satan bound just like when Jesus cast out demons He only spoke it. I think it’s up to us, I believe that the great chain is the power and truth of the gospel which binds satan from deceiving us, but we have to play a part in it we have to choose to believe be obedient...

That was a reply to tribulationsign who mentioned that

But why have one if he is also locked in the abyss?

Why would you need that in a literal sense if he is also locked in a literal abyss?

Yes I agree with your view on the great chain and the thousand years that’s my purpose to this thread to get literalist to think about it. If the great chain and abyss are literal then there is no need for the great chain I don’t agree with your view on Jesus and Michael but thats a different...

Revelation 20 1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it...