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Hello Randy old friend, it looks like you have altered a few of your views which is good but the bible does state that "the great tribulation" is on the church not ethnic Israel. Revelation 7 9 After this I saw a vast crowd, too great to count, from every nation and tribe and people and...

Riding on the clouds or a day of clouds was a sign of Old Testament judgement, the verse below wasn't literal either Isaiah 19 This message came to me concerning Egypt: Look! The Lord is advancing against Egypt, riding on a swift cloud. The idols of Egypt tremble. The hearts of the...

Post trib If you think about it the circumstances and characters aren’t the same in each text

No I don’t believe so, the one in Matthew is Jesus coming in judgement in 70AD and the one in Revelation is symbolic for Jesus defeating all of His enemies with the sword of His mouth His word

You misunderstand me, of course the bible is the spiritually inspired word of God but some the books are written and addressed to certain people at certain times for certain circumstance, some of the bible was to them not us but they are lessons and teaching for all of the church

I wasn’t attacking your view I used to view the same myself, I was advising people to start fresh and investigate what the bible really says from the biblical language that it was originally written in and what the message was to the actual people it was originally written too. It wasn’t...

Yes true but I was in that same boat for years listening to preachers and then came the left behind books and I thought that I had it all figured out. What changed for me was the Hank Hanagraph book the apocalypse code and Hank said that the code to the book of revelation is the other books of...

Yes the 7th trumpet is the end of our world revealing that Revelation isn't all in chronological order Revelation 7 The Seventh Trumpet 15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord...

Well no verse in the entire Bible mentions a seven year tribulation The point is that satan was defeated at the cross, it’s spiritual not literal and that defeat is for anyone who chooses it in their life

Colossians 2:15 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross Hebrews 2 14 Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power...

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Of course but what has that got to do with satan being defeated at the cross?

Jesus crushed satans head at the cross and resurrection

So if the great tribulation is from satan then the wrath of God (as in the sets of 7 punishments) are dif from the great tribulation right?

I’m showing you clear scriptures of the great tribulation and you are ignoring them and showing me your guessing timeline charts

Two of the three times you just posted are correct Below is a clear description of the great tribulation is it from God or satan? Revelation 7 The Great Multitude in White Robes 9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe...

You confuse it with the wrath of God There are many tribulations but only one “the great tribulation“ which is the greatest tribulation form satan upon the church The saints are protected from the wrath of God which is Gods judgement on the unsaved

I provided scripture of the angel telling John when and what the great tribulation is it’s different from the wrath of God

I didn’t say that Jesus came to the earth to execute judgment He didn’t need to just like with the flood or Sodom and Gomorra, but I posted His own words showing it was from God Luke 19 41 As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it 42 and said, “If you, even you, had only...

The great tribulation started the Steven was stoned to death and is still happening today. Acts 7 The Stoning of Stephen 54 When the members of the Sanhedrin heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him. 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the...