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LOL! Do you just enjoy making a fool out of yourself or what? How can you not know that @claninja is a preterist? Goodness gracious.

LOL! This is classic. You don't even know what claninja and I are arguing about, yet you feel that you can describe our argument as "inane". That's rich, buddy. I love you how you think you can describe something as "inane" when you don't even know what the discussion is actually about. That is...

If they didn't die, then where are they? They could not have ascended to the third heaven/paradise where Jesus came from because He said this... John 3:13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

No, I did not miss them at all. I see you contradicting those comments in post #125 when you said "Rev. 11: 15 & 17 refer to when the glorified Jesus `has taken His great power and reigned.`". Revelation 11:17 says: “We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty, The One who is and who was and who...

Explain how you are not forcing contradiction into the Word of God yourself. The Bible tells us that everything God created was very good (Genesis 1:31), so explain how you think Satan and devils/demons became evil. It appears that you do believe that they are spirits or spirit beings, so they...

That they could potentially have been deceived that the day of the Lord already happened or already arrived is clearly implied in 2 Thessalonians 2:2, so that isn't something to "admit". That's obvious. In the case of your claim that the day of the Lord related to the destruction of Jerusalem...

The problem with this view is that the book of Job shows Satan appearing before God in heaven well after his original fall. I believe this is clearly the best option because it talks about Satan having accused believers before God before being cast out and no one can accuse believers before God...

The dead in Christ were not resurrected in 70 AD and no one was caught up to meet the Lord in the air in 70 AD. So, the day of the Lord has definitely not yet happened, which means the temple of God in 2 Thess 2 is a spiritual temple no matter what you say. I'm moving on from this discussion now.

Uh huh. Don't bother being specific about anything because that would take effort and would require you to care. And you've made it clear that you don't really care about anything discussed on this forum. That's your opinion, which means nothing to me when it comes to this topic. It's possible...

Are there different types of birth pains or can more than one word be used to describe birth pains? The latter, right? I don't know what you're trying to say here. Different words can be used to describe the same thing. There are these things called synonyms. I'm not saying that what Paul said...

LOL! Yeah, who cares if you say things accurately or not. Means nothing, right? <ugh> You don't think futurists understand that Revelation 12:5 is talking about the birth of Christ and His ascension? I believe most of them do. Right. That's what I'm saying. So, the key word there is "most"...

Yes, it is. I have yet to see any preterist or premillennialist give an interpretation of 2 Peter 3:10-12 that makes any sense at all. Maybe you can be the first. What Paul says about it in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 confirms it as well. The reason he said that those in spiritual darkness "shall not...

You sure do talk a lot about things you don't care about. You're an interesting feller. I don't care what you or anyone else here thinks about me. You may have noticed that before. And you're basing that on what exactly? I didn't say it's a huge honkin' deal. But, if you're going to make a...

How much of the book of Revelation do you believe has been fulfilled? I would assume you understand that at least some of Revelation 2 and 3 have been fulfilled. And I'll assume you understand that Revelation 12:5 refers to the birth and ascension of Jesus Christ. How about the rest of the book...

That's an exaggeration. Obviously, there are at least a few things written about in Revelation 2 and 3 that happened in the first century to people in those first century churches. I would say that a vast majority of futurists understand that. And then Revelation 12:5 clearly refers to the...

I'm a dude, dude. What point do you think I'm missing exactly? I would never purposely miss someone's point. Why would I do that?

Here you go again just immediately dismissing a valid argument rather than addressing it. It's what you do. Birth pains are birth pains regardless of what words are used to describe them. What "scholarly work" are you looking at? Wrong. Far from it. You are very ignorant. Many people believe...

Right. And it's not just the resurrected dead who will be caught up to meet Jesus in the air when He descends from heaven, but also those who are alive and remain. There's no examples of that kind of language being used symbolically anywhere in scripture, so there's no basis for not taking it...

You don't know how to interpret scripture in context. The context of verse 9 is in relation to the Lord's patience while giving time for people to repent up until the time that Jesus fulfills the promise of His second coming and returns. That verse has absolutely nothing to do with a time period...

You are following doctrines of your active imagination.