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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    The setting in your model is incorrect. The church is raptured in a pretrib setting. Your model has the opposite setting..
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You are trying to make a case that Jesus comes in power and great glory during the trib and all the people on earth mourn, and he sends angels to gather. That can only be after the wrath in Rev 19 on the white horses. The 2 raptures are documented with JESUS GATHERING, not angels. Neither of...
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    Why people hate Christians. - for good reason

    I suspect the op is daring people to be kind. That puts up people's guard. Sow love...reap a harvest of love. People need to learn to network people. Have a flock of folks around you that celebrate you. Depart from those tolerating you. What a happy life. Intoxicating actually.
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    Why people hate Christians. - for good reason

    My mother moved to a small town to retire . After a year or so she concluded the entire town was crass and rude, and difficult to befriend. I told her " you receive what you project" I showed her as we went out, how to smile, act friendly, and care about their struggles by asking and listening...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Do you use electricity? Then you are under the evil system and better run to the wilderness. You are paranoid of your shadow. Paranoia ain't from God.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    The ot Jews are the OLD COVENANT. THE WIFE GONE AWHORING. THEY ARE COVENANT. That is just a fact A covenant bride / wife. You really think the bride of Christ is not illustrated in the earthly family???? THE BIBLE SAYS IT IS. The earthly family is a type of heavenly dimensions. FATHER SON...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You being out in left field and forbidding scripture will not go well for you at all. You have zero idea what you are talking about.
  8. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    No We don't got any 2 brides. Maybe you better not venture into any MEANING of what the parables mean, or the types in the Old Testament. A marriage is a covenant between 2 people. The bride of Christ is those that belong to Jesus. Luke 5:34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    As far as 7 being a significant number?
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    What ever you do, don't venture into the "Kinsman redeemer." That is part of typology. It is not specifically stated IN THE BIBLE that Jesus is the kinsman redeemer. We only know that through typology of Ruth. Without that typology, you will never know what is going on in Rev 5. Best to stay...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    ...and yet your Bible knowledge is pretty lacking.
  12. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Zero.
  13. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Amen! The bible rules!!!
  14. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Yes the number is unknown. I never said any exact number. What I am saying is that YOU came up with 500 for a reason. I assume, to suggest, a one day loading. I already debunked a one day loading. Maybe you are still thinking hybrids that are mostly sterile populated the earth into thousands...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You are using the extremely rare bizarre examples to prove what ? That there were 500 animals in the ark and then evolution took over to have thousands of UNIQUE SPECIES today? Any bird watcher would 100% disagree. Any animal study would 100% disagree. A jagualep proves there were only 500...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You are such a Little clown with nothing better to do. Following me around like a little kid mocking and being a coward. Reminds me of the devil following the men of God around mocking and menacing. SMH.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Most likely the last of the animals and the 8 humans went in on the selfsame day. Your model of, "they could not load anything except in the last day of the 7 days", is a very strange fantasy, that you need,to support a failed doctrine. I am sure you struggle over the bible saying "7"...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Now that is profound, that all breathing animals died, because in nature there is the separation of the species. So in the cat family, a lion and a jaguar can not procreate. A horse and a donkey produce a sterile mule. A red bird can not successfully mate with a sparrow. That is the protection...