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  1. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    From google: Based on current scientific understanding of evolutionary biology, genetics, and the fossil record, the chances of millions of species evolving from 1,000 common "kinds" in only 4,000 years is considered extremely low to biologically impossible. [1, 2] I doubled the assertion...
  2. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    In just the mammal species, there is over 6,000. Just the mammals. (Still need the birds and reptiles) The selfsame day THEY ENTERING, could be "the last of the loading." Again, I don't need some strict private, "word definitions interpretation", by you, to unpack the word of God. Besides...
  3. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Quote "Matthew 24 has no ties to Revelation 19. Matthew 24 is the gathering from heaven and earth immediately after the tribulation and before the wrath of God. Whereas Revelation 19 is the coming of Jesus at Armageddon. There is not a harvest at this time. It is the time of vengeance. Why you...
  4. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    QUOTE "I am willing to believe anytime Jesus shows up with His angels it will be in power and glory." ABSOLUTELY FALSE FALS FALSE acts 1...like manner. Zero power and great glory. REV 14 :14...ZERO power and great glory John 21:....Jesus cooking fish. Zero power and great glory John...
  5. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Actually, it almost has to be a 7 day loading. 1.2 species of land animals 11.7 million species of reptiles. Then factor in the "one day" theory of loading and it says it rained on THAT DAY. So it was not even 24 hours that they had to load millions of living creatures. Actually not only...
  6. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Lol. Horus? You named the " AC" , Horus? Out of thin air? Jesus sitting on a cloud is no different that Jesus coming in Rev 19, in power and great glory? Jesus ascending in Acts 1 is the same as Jesus coming in power and great glory, in Rev 19? Jesus sitting alone on a cloud holding a sickle, is...
  7. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    QUOTE "I have a question a few questions. When is the rapture of the Jews? Before the wrath of God or after the wrath of God. When does the great multitude get to heaven? Before the wrath of God or after the wrath of God. Do you have any scriptural proof of what you believe or is it what you...
  8. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    From Google "Total Numbers: While 1,398–1,400 kinds are often cited, including seven pairs of some "clean" animals, the total number of individuals is estimated to be under 7,000." Probably took 7 days.
  9. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Ok Now is see your struggle. You erroneously have the church raptured "mid 7 yr trib" Daniel spoke of. Therefore you resist ANYTHING WITH A "7" IN IT. It all "lines up" in your mind
  10. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    QUOTE "Question: If the 6th seal is looking forward to the second coming and is not the second coming, when does the great multitude get to heaven for the marriage supper? You never can answer any questions with scriptural proof, it's always just what you THINK." SMH I am making you go against...
  11. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    It could be. In fact you are most likely correct. I just do not need that dynamic to defend my position. Also ....some are trying to make a point that all were loaded the same day. Virtually impossible. The 7 day thingy fits
  12. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    I think preterist. They use a totally different bible. There is almost zero common ground with them. Radically misguided end times baloney. I have all of them on ignore. They can not respectfully engage any challenge, and are nasty individuals.
  13. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Agree. Church raptured 7 yr trib Belivers That are left behind are martyred and we see them in heaven as the in innumerable number. AC breaks covenant midway and descecrates the temple. Jews harvested before the wrath in Rev 14. Jesus returns post 7 yr trib with his church.
  14. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    QUOTE "There is nothing in the Word of God about Jesus coming in power and glory in Rev 19." Wow....you really painted yourself into a corner. Rev 19 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge...
  15. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    QUOTE "No. Rev 6 is the coming of the Lord immediately after the great tribulation. He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. This is why there is great multitude in heaven in Rev 7. That's how the great multitude gets to heaven to be at the marriage supper BEFORE the white...
  16. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Nope. You seem to think Jesus sitting on a cloud holding a sickle is Jesus coming in power and great Glory. I already posted Rev 19, which is tge second coming in power and great glory. The second coming on white horses is AFTER tge 7 yr trib. It all lines up perfectly. Your struggle over tge w...
  17. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    The AC Not , "a AC" I dont need him to be "horus"
  18. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    QUOTE "Revelation is not in chronological order, but the seals are in chronological order. As are the trumpets and vials. To think differently puts you down that rabbit hole you are always talking about" Talk about a rabbit hole. Your theory has the 144,000 sealed AFTER Jesus comes in power...
  19. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    QUOTE "Like Jesus coming immediately after the tribulation of those days when the sun and moon are darkened and the stars fall from heaven AT THE 6TH SEAL?" I prefer the non spin version. Mat 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not...
  20. rebuilder 454

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    QUOTE " Because we can prove that there is no 7 year tribulation. Tribulation is not the wrath of God." "7 yr trib" "7 yr great tribulation" Take your pick. 2 doors leading into the same room. The "WRATH PART of thev"7 yr blah blah" (Let's rename it something besides the no beainer it is) So in...