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QUOTE "And yet you cannot produce one single scripture that shows that there is 7 year tribulation. We know that is not a 7 year tribulation because the great tribulation is OVER at the 6th seal..........and the wrath of God is the 7th seal which lasts for one year." For the 10th time "Daniel"...

There is another verse in that same chapter where it says the same day he entered the rain started

Lets pretend Rev is in chronological order for a complete misunderstanding. No, Rev 6, the 6th seal, is looking FORWARD to the white horse coming...AHEM, IN POWER AND GREAT GLORY. Definately not 2 places where Jesus comes in power and great glory...as you are insisting

QUOTE "Great. I can show you 100% proof that the great tribulation at the end of the age is OVER at the 6th seal, and the 7th seal is the wrath of God" Rev 6 ...the sixth seal. 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as...

QUOTE "Secondly, the coming of Jesus Matthew 24 clearly says that tribulation is over when the sun and moon are darkened and the stars fall from heaven. This clearly happens at the 6th seal. Further, right after this harvest there is a great multitude in heaven some of whom have come out of...

I have an ongoing experiment that I do at the grocery store. I smile at every single person that I passed by. Most people smile back, but I can tell they are "taken back" by a stranger offering a smile. It is unexpected by them, and most of the time they smile back Now sometimes I see people...

The 4 horsemen sent by heaven, the 2 witnesses, the 144,000 sealed, the flying scorpions, the innumerable number ( Those saints left behind), and the plagues by the 4 horsemen, as well as the billions slaughtered by the AC, all happen AFTER THE RAPTURE. You have the trib STARTING at the halfway...

I can show you a study where tribuation is used by God for believers. Here is one: Rev 2:22 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat...

Lol. EVERY rapture verse is pretrib setting. You can not prove otherwise. That is why you , instead, throw generalized "safe" statements at it. Get a bible and you will cast down your misinformation, or, be shown the word and decide to go against the bible. (Like I am making you do.)

Pretend Rev 14 does not say what it says. Or ignore it. Oh wait...you already do. Nevermind.

QUOTE "BUT The rider on the white horse does not kick off the final week. The week kicks off when a covenant with many is made. That does not mean the seals have been opened. The seals will not be opened until the Church is raptured. The Church WILL NOT be raptured before the 7 year period...

None of that adds up. When did the first 3.5 years start ? Or maybe there is no 7 yr anything ? If the AC sets up his kingdom( as you seem to imply) in the middle....the middle of what? 3.5 + 3.5 equals 7. " the middle of the "week" ", is 3.5 yrs. So all the events before the rapture of the...

Not even close. The Bible says you either take the mark or die. The Bible says that every man, woman, and child, on the planet that are not written in the book, take the mark . so the only way you're gonna make it through the tribulation period is to take the mark, because there is no such...

SMH. We can see that is 100% false. Things don't even come close to lining up with your model. No contest You can't even see the parable of a wedding is the groom gathering His bride. Wow Bizarre

QUOTE "What? The great tribulation is the worst tribulation that believers will EVER experience. It will be mostly Jews that experience the great tribulation. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the wrath of God or the Day of the Lord that will occur at Armageddon." In your model, you have a...

The rapture verses setting is opposite of when your doctrine places the rapture. Scripture is against your doctrine.

Are you now saying the parables are not symbolic ?

Tell it to Jesus and his tons of metaphoric stories. psssst....he did so, so that the pharisees could not mentally understand. The spirit part of the word of God is the depth. So dont think you are taking any high ground by muddling up the bible that is using metaphors and analogy. Simply stay...

Even a few will be cast down by your methods. Maybe skip hebrews.

There are no postrib rapture verses. The ONLY mid 7 yr trib rapture verse is Rev 14:14. It is amazing that the only postrib rapture verse in the bible is omitted by postribbrrs. Huh? Bizarre.