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Just regarding John's Revelation, I would recommend "The Returning King," by Dr. V. S. Poythress. You can read it absolutely free of charge online at that link. I know him, too... <smile> Grace and peace to all.

Nobody here is doing either. We just disagree, obviously, on what it (and Revelation 7) is saying. I (and others) just don't... "understand it"... <smile> ...in the same small, wooden way you do. <chuckles> Grace and peace to you.

We disagree on the sense in which what you say here are true. They are true, but not in the sense that you say them. In this life, we cannot absolutely remove ourselves ~ or be removed ~ from "all these things." You're actually doing the same thing on this that @rebuilder 454 is doing in...

It seems you misunderstand the 'escape' in Luke 21:36. You can escape something in the sense of not falling victim to that thing, of being sustained from it. It seems also that you misunderstand, in the same sense, the 'keeping' that Christ speaks of in Revelation 3:10. We will be kept...

There is... are... no... "raptures." Jesus will come back, the final judgment will occur, and the unsaved will be sent away. The time of tribulation is now, just as Jesus said in John 16:33. There will be, though, a great ramping up of this tribulation near the end as His return approaches...

Absolutely disagree. The first proclamation ~ by God, of course ~ of the Covenant of grace is Genesis 3:15. The mediator of the covenant of works was Adam, and he failed in Genesis 3. From that point on, the God's covenant of grace was in effect, and Jesus is depicted in the form of types and...

Not necessarily disagreeing, Trekson, but not really sure what you mean here. Grace and peace to you.

Not really. The problem begins, really, when people try to separate the Old Testament from the New. Tribulation of all kinds in this life knows no time barriers. <smile> Grace and peace to you, Trekson.

<chuckles> Their “job,” Trekson, was to be God’s “mouthpiece”… to speak God’s words to them, and they were mostly about very present matters ~ statements about Who He is, promises, encouragements, instruction, and sometimes admonishments, and warnings. Which, actually, we get in the New...

Well, one who holds to a "pretrib understanding" is, more broadly speaking, either historicist or futurist. But the historicist, futurist, and preterist schools of thought are all... wrong. It can looked at and discussed in much greater detail, of course, but even just from a 40,000 foot view...

Ah, Well God's Israel ~ His household ~ includes Gentile believers, yes. As Paul says in Romans 2:28-29, "no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical... a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit"... and in Ephesians...

Since the Fall, and all the way up to now, yes. Of course. After the Fall, yes. The result of God-given faith ~ again, God's assurance of salvation ~ is good works. You're right, James says this, that if you have works but do not have this God-given faith, it is a dead faith; any faith apart...

First of all, Dan, I didn't say what you quoted me as saying above. I quoted @brightfame52 as saying, "I believe Adam was under a Covenant of works." I did say he was correct in saying that, but that was what he/she said. Now, to the rest of your post (and I'll mention @brightfame52 here...

Right back atcha. Friend. Funny thing is, you said above, "I believe Adam was under a Covenant of works," and that's true, that we agree on. But then you said, in the second half of that same sentence, "...the Covenant of Grace was with Christ," and that's not true... God did not make a...

<chuckles> At least, BF, you seem to somewhat understand now that the covenant of grace, um, came to be, shall we say... <smile> ... in Adam's day after his and Eve's fall in Genesis 3 and has been in effect ever since. That's good. <smile> And hopefully that salvation has never been, since...

Okay. <smile> Yeah, no problem... Sure, I agree. But, to put it very succinctly, the biological is really not relevant to this conversation, just as physical Israel is not really relevant when we're talking about God's Israel. That's not to say the biological descendants of Abraham "aren't...

Thanks, BF52. One clarification, though: Abraham does not have "two different seeds," but rather one seed ~ all those in Christ, whether of Old Testament times or New Testament times ~ and that one seed is now one regardless of ethnicity. We are all one in Christ Jesus, children of the promise...

No, just... well, at least kinda stupid. <smile> Grace and peace to you, Jack.

Being wrong about this or that... about whether this or that is sinful or about this person or that person ~ even Paul ~ being saved or not does not beget a sentence to Hell, Jack. <smile> Grace and peace to you.

Well, yes, God's true Jews of His Israel, His household, as Paul defines them in Romans 2:28-29... "no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical... a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter... His...