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  1. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    I will keep it short. Unknown tongues is as simple as this… 2 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue speak not unto men, but unto God… Simply, the entire chapter is about speaking unto God in unknown tongues. It just shows us how to do it. This is a New Testament experience that the Holy Ghost...
  2. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Speaking in tongues, compared to not speaking in tongues is like using a rowboat instead of a motor boat. Some people try to do it on their own and some people need assistance because the path is too difficult.
  3. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Get out of the dugout my friend.
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    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Romans 8:26: "Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Both
  5. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Per chapter 12, you are correct. Per chapter 14 regarding unknown tongues. It is quite different. Paul wishes all would speak with tongues. Including you.
  6. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    As I was driving to work today, I could barely pray thinking about dealing with all of my stuff I have to do. I just had to speak in tongues under the power of God for a few minutes, and I felt refreshing from the Holy Ghost come on me. Much of our life we spend in carnal rational thinking...
  7. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Obviously, you have never been alone with God, speaking in tongues until you have lost all desire to sin after about a half hour or more(lost in the spirit of prayer). Obviously, when you pray you think and think and think and think while you tell God all of your carnal ideas and complaints...
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    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Groaning that cannot be uttered is speaking about your carnal prayers vs your human spirit praying. Anybody can sit around thinking constantly about all of their issues and the things they have to do during the day while they are praying but speaking in unknown tongues in your prayer is your...
  9. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    That will do away with 1 Corinthians 14.
  10. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Pretty funny, huh? These men are full of new wine? Are you of that persuasion?
  11. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Lesson 6- Page 9 This video can add to the subject
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    I think it is better to debate a cause without settling it then to settle it without debating it
  13. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Have you also engaged in preventing people from being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins?
  14. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    You’re missing out on having your human spirit pray directly to God. The carnal man cannot pray like that. It is cluttered with carnal thoughts. It even shuts down our prayers unless we are in desperate situations. I sometimes pray with my human spirit to a point that I lose my desire to sin...
  15. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    According to Paul, it has great benefit to pray or speak in an unknown tongue. 2 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God, for in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. That’s why.
  16. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    There are many gifts and I agree. But the main gifts are the nine gifts of the spirit and first Corinthians chapter 12, and the other minor gifts are generally called ministration gifts. The problem that I have with debates are when two wrongs don’t make a right. For instance, a Trinitarian...
  17. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Acts 2:38. Correction. Paul taught it also.
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    That is because they don’t understand the difference between chapter 12 and chapter 14. Chapter 12 teaches that it is a division of gifts according to the will of God as God desires for people to have these particular gifts. Chapter 14 is about something taught that all have to have. Paul said...
  19. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Some people may have it and not practice it. I went through a dry spell for years and then prayed through in 1988 when that guy was preaching that Jesus would come in Rosh Hashanah in September 1988 it scared us all. I remember I spent several years not practicing tongues. But I had the Holy...
  20. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Paul said that all should speak in unknown tongues. He wished that all would speak in unknown tongues, but rather that they prophesy. That is the second level of speaking in tongues. God wants an interpretation now and then.