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  1. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    (Continuing...) You don't say what translation you're quoting from, but the KJV has: (18) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Translation problem again! Other translations: KJV: (5) Whose are the fathers, and...
  2. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    No, he was only a man. Philippians 2:7-8 WEB (7) but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men. (8) And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to the point of death, yes, the death of the cross. ISV (7) Instead, poured out in...
  3. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    You need more clarification?! This is like teaching an infant! I was talking about just one verse - the expression "Consider 2 Corinthians 4:4" tells you that. It contains two occurrences of the Greek word theos, both of which are translated as god. The first occurrence is all lowercase and...
  4. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I don't know why you are asking that! Why didn't you just read what I wrote, as it answers your question! I wrote: The "god of this world" is referring to Satan. That's the same Greek word that's translated as god (theos) that's used to refer to almighty God YHVH later in the verse, which is...
  5. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    You need to read the Bible more carefully. John sees God sitting on a throne in heaven - Revelation 4 WEB: (2) Immediately I was in the Spirit. Behold, there was a throne set in heaven, and one sitting on the throne (5) Out of the throne proceed lightnings, sounds, and thunders. There were...
  6. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    John 20:17 WEB (17) Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold me, for I haven’t yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Jesus plainly says that our God and heavenly Father (YHVH) is also Jesus' God and...
  7. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    You did in post #157: Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant. Nevertheless, why won't you share what you know? Isn't that why most people participate in these forums - to learn more about God's word to us, and to help others to learn more too? I had to remind myself (I have a poor memory)...
  8. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Here is what the apostle Paul wrote in Colossians 1 (WEB): (1) Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through the will of God, and Timothy our brother, (2) to the saints and faithful brothers in Christ at Colossae: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Pauls says...
  9. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Why are you embarrassed to try to help others understand the Scriptures? Luke 9:26 (WEB): (26) For whoever will be ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed, when he comes in his glory, and the glory of the Father, and of the holy angels. 2 Corinthians 4:5-6 WEB...
  10. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    These are two different things, two different phrases. The Old Testament reference is to a day of YHVH, whereas the New Testament use of the phrase is referring to Jesus: Jeremiah 46:10 LSV (10) And that day [is] to Lord YHWH of Hosts A day of vengeance, To be avenged of His adversaries, And...
  11. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I've no idea what that means. It's just gobbledygook to me!
  12. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Better translations: Micah 5:2 WEB (2) But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, being small among the clans of Judah, out of you one will come out to me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings out are from of old, from ancient times. or UASV+ (2) But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, the one too little...
  13. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Well you missed out that verse (John 3:16), so you're doing likewise! We can't quote every single relevant verse in the Bible when we comment on a topic - there are often too many verses to quote. That doesn't mean that we are picking and choosing. I picked a relevant verse, that's not...
  14. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    God did not come in human form; He sent His Son instead. It's so simple to understand; it's not hidden. Just read carefully what the Scriptures say and don't make wrong assumptions based on what other people have told you. John 3:16 UASV+ (16) For God so loved the world that he gave his only...
  15. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    No man could pay the redemption price (the life of a perfect man) because all men were imperfect and sinful in nature (which they inherited from Adam). God therefore chose to provide a perfect human body for His only begotten Son - Hebrews 10:5 (WEB): (5) Therefore when he comes into the...
  16. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Scripture cannot fight Scripture. When comparing verses of Scripture it helps us find the true meaning, the understanding that harmonises all the verses of Scripture. If you think that the verses are "fighting against" each other then that should be an indication that you have misunderstood...
  17. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    In which case it is wrong to assume that Jesus was claiming to be God, and using God's name (in John 8:58), when other Scripture verses make that impossible, such as: Revelation 3:12 WEB (12) He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no...
  18. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Jesus spoke in Aramaic, which John translated into Greek when writing his Gospel, and others translated that into English. He did not speak God's name - that would have made no sense. Why do so many people stop at Exodus 3:14 and not read the next verse, in which God tells us what is His name...
  19. keithr

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    For Jesus to say "Before Abraham was born, I am he" doesn't make much sense as a reply to John 8:57 (UASV+): (57) So the Jews said to him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?" The UASV note on the translation provides the most sensible translation - John 8:58 (UASV+)...
  20. keithr

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    That can't be correct. Revelation 5:9-10 (WEB) (9) They {the 24 elders} sang a new song, saying, “You are worthy to take the book, and to open its seals: for you were killed, and bought us for God with your blood, out of every tribe, language, people, and nation, (10) and made us kings and...