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I don't know how you got all those assumptions from my post (#362) which simply quoted Revelation 7:14! Anyway, read the verse in context. It is referring to the great multitude in heaven, which was made up of people "out of every nation and of all tribes, peoples, and languages" (verse 9)...

The majority of translations include the word 'the' (49 of the 63 English translations listed on the Bible Gateway website). The Cambridge Bible Notes says: great tribulation] Should be, the great tribulation: the article is strongly emphasised. It probably means, “the great tribulation...

Revelation 7:14 (WEB): (14) I told him, “My lord, you know.” He said to me, “These are those who came out of the great tribulation. They washed their robes, and made them white in the Lamb’s blood.

I have not commented on Revelation 14 in this thread. You're confusing me with somebody else.

Err, may I point out that the apostle Paul died around 64/65 AD whereas the Book of Revelation was written in around 95 AD, so Paul could not have had any opinion or interpretation of it.

I said that sentence was spurious, but you replied with: However, you are mistaken. If you were to do a quick Google search you would come up with (Spurious Text): On Authority of Professor C. Tischendorf’s notes on the readings of the two oldest Greek manuscripts: The Sinaitic and the...

You need to consider: What is the purpose of Jesus reigning for 1,000 years before turning the Kingdom over to God? Who will Christ be reigning over? Why will it take 1,000 years? If only Christians are resurrected to start with, why do the rest of the dead have to wait 1,000 years before...

The "rest of the dead" are resurrected at the beginning, or during the Millenium (please excuse my use of the common mispelling, using just one 'n'!), not before it. I've made my contribution(s) to this discussion, but I've got a lot on this coming week or more so I may not be able to...

The symbolism of beast is explained in Revelation 17 (WEB): (9) Here is the mind that has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. (10) They are seven kings. Five have fallen, the one is, the other has not yet come. When he comes, he must continue a little while...

How do you deduce from Revelation 20 that the first resurrection occurs after the great tribulation? What it says about the first resurrection is - Revelation 20:4:6 (WEB): (4) I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded...

God's wrath, and the wrath of the Lamb - Revelation 6:16 (WEB): (16) They told the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, Revelation 20:4 (WEB): (4) I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was...

The apostle Paul describes Jesus' first return, when he comes for his bride, the Church - 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 (WEB): (15) For this we tell you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede those who have fallen asleep...

Noah is not a type of the Church being raptured; it is Enoch who is the type of the rapture. He was "taken", or raptured, before the flood (great tribulation!): Genesis 5:24 (WEB): (24) Enoch walked with God, and he was not found, for God took him. Hebrews 11:5 (WEB): (5) By faith, Enoch was...

Deuteronomy 7:6 (WEB): (6) For you are a holy people to Yahweh your God. Yahweh your God has chosen you to be a people for his own possession, above all peoples who are on the face of the earth.

When the resurrected Jesus gave the revelation to John, to show things that were going to happen in the future, the Church had been going for around 60 years. If they were Old Testament saints, how could they say the underlined words in this verse? : Revelation 5:9-10 (9) They sang a new...

Chapter 5 tells of the 24 elders, symbolic of the resurrected Church, saying, Revelation 5:8-10 (WEB): (8) Now when he had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the...

Here are some supporting verses from the Old Testament that the church does not go through the Great Tribulation, i.e. the rapture is pre-tribulation. Isaiah 26: 19) Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as...

Jesus wasn't speaking in any of those verses, and Scripture is given by inspiration of God, not Jesus (2 Timothy 3:16). Regardless, you writing "it cannot be interpreted that way. It can be reinterpreted that way" doesn't clear up anything!

Well that's cleared that up! o_O:jest:

The first and seventh days of Passover are sabbath days (high sabbaths). If one of those falls on the seventh day of the week then the other cannot possibly fall on seventh day of the week. Only the normal weekly sabbath always falls on seventh day of the week, the high sabbaths can fall on...