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  1. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    That is completely up to you. God doesn't impose it upon you.
  2. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    Your thoughts here are probably all wrapped up in the phrase there, "spiritual rebirth", whatever that is. Anyone does not know what spiritual rebirth is cannot even properly discuss it.
  3. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    You have the order wrong. Once you are repentant believer, then the Holy Spirit will regenerate you. You have to want that "new nature".
  4. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    That is not true. The gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38) is not the empowering Holy Spirit to work signs, wonders and miracles; rather it is the indwelling Holy Spirit, the helper and comforter promised to all who have been saved. If he believes it, then it may be wrong, but it is not a lie...
  5. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    Precisely for the same reason that Adam and Eve sinned!
  6. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    Then what was the temptation? If there is no desire, then there can be no temptation.
  7. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    Paul tells us specifically why death spread to everyone. It was "because everyone sinned". Adam was just the first. You didn't die spiritually because Adam sinned; you died spiritually because you sinned. It was you @TheHC, not Adam, who caused you to die spiritually. You were dead in your...
  8. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    The death that came from Adam's disobedience was his own spiritual death. His physical death came from being ejected from the garden and no longer having access to the fruit of the tree of life. Everlasting life is not immortality. The fruit of the tree of life provided the preventative to...
  9. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    So then, you do think that Satan was ignorant of the very thing that you think you know. Interesting. Another question. How you could be tempted in something that you have absolutely no interest?
  10. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    If that were actually true, are you saying that Satan didn't know that? Was he really that stupid? I don't think so. We all are able to choose not to sin and most do that most of the time. It is just that no one except Jesus has ever done that perfectly. Lusts of the flesh is inherent in...
  11. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    Why do so many fail to understand that Romans 5:12 says that the reason death spread to all men is because they all sinned? The only thing attributed to Adam is that he was the first; it was through him that sinned entered the world. It does not say that sinned spread to all men because Adam...
  12. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    Everyone dies. Everyone will be resurrected That is universal. Those Justified and regenerated have already been granted eternal life.
  13. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    That only means that you do not really understand what it means to be forgiven. To be forgiven is a state of being. It is not an on-again-off-again condition. Contrary to the concept of the RCC, one who has been forgiven does not become lost (unforgiven) again the very next time he commits a...
  14. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    Well yes he did return to dust. but that was in complete harmony with how he was created. We know that because the tree of life was placed in the Garden to fend off the natural action of physically dying: Gen 3:22-23 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing...
  15. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    Sin is lawlessness (1 John 3:4). Or as the KJV says, sin is transgression of the law. It is something that one does. Since sin is by definition lawlessness, there can be no such thing as sin without a valid body of law. Paul says the law gives us our knowledge of sin (Rom 3:20). He says, “I...
  16. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    Given all of that, there is not much for you and me to even discuss. So your idea here is that God obviously didn't know that Adam and Eve would sin and placed the tree of life in the garden to give them immortality. Not a very high view of God. But I guess given your comments above, that...
  17. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    How can it be a battle if it is not a choice? Because they all sinned. Not because Adam sinned. Adam was just the first (actually the second, but no matter) to sin. He introduced sin to the physical creation. As a result, he introduced spiritual death to the physical creation. Physical death...
  18. J

    Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

    Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,.... That does not seem to me to be a personification. It is a statement of fact. You do not agree that each and every human being possesses a spirit? That is weird. A physical human being in the non-physical spiritual realm? That is...