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I agree with what you have written. If I left you with the impression that I thought that the Church Fathers were infallible, I apologize. I never thought that, nor do I think I have written that. I do believe that the teachings (writings) of the Apostolic Fathers (students of the Apostles)...

And you have no argument for your theory. You have fulfilled Scripture though: 2 Peter 3:16 How do you fulfil/interpret this passage: Matthew 18:17 Curious Mary

Thanks Ronald. I know it is impossible to have a tone in our words when we are writing them, but rest assured my tone with you is not harsh or mean or belittling etc etc. I am just being matter of fact and straightforward. Jesus prayer has not been denied (John 17:20-23). There is only One...

Hey Ronald, I appreciate your story. All the books you listed are good however I would also recommend Crossing the Tiber and Upon this Rock by Stephen Ray! Being open to change doesn't mean that you are more righteous. Being open to change means you don't recognize The Church with authority...

You test your own words and thoughts against YOUR interpretation of Scripture which means you will never tell yourself that you are wrong.

I know you are mired and chained to YOUR theology.

Yes! charlatan: one making usually showy pretenses to knowledge or ability YOU don't have any "major doctrinal flaws" but The Catholic Church and Calvin and the students of the Apostles do?.........that is YOU showing pretenses to knowledge; knowledge they don't have but YOU do! Mary

Lol....You say "amen" to such a bizarre an un-biblical post? Sooo tell me Michiah; do you test and agree with everything that @amigo de christo "has ever said or ever will say, or write"? Curious Mary PS....be careful with your answer

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Lol.....amigo, you have always cracked me up with your 'everyone is infallible except me' postings. Sooooo if the Catholic Church (the Pope) is not infallible AND John Calvin is not infallible............WHO, in your opinion is not infallible? (I already know I am going to get a rambling...

Lol Dan.....Soooo the Catholic Church AND Luther AND Calvin et all Protestant teachers were heretics but YOU, Dan clarkston, YOU are not a heretic? Help me out here Dan! You and only YOU ''teach what was taught by Jesus, His Apostles, or the early church"? I look forward to your biblical...

Thank you RomeSweetHome. Some, such as @mailmandan, believe that the teachings of the Reformers from the 16th century hold more weight than the teachings of the men who actually talked to the Apostles. It's a BIZARRE position to take and I don't understand it! Respectfully, Mary

Soooo to answer your question mailmadmen (I know you won't answer mine because of the charlatan that you are). YES! The writings of the Church Fathers are not infallible, and the writings of John Calvin are not inspired by God and are not infallible! We agree that the men who wrote Scripture...

@Ronald Nolette doesn't concern himself with Chirstian history NOR Scripture. Rondald only concerns himself (or herself, I don't know how he/she identifies) with what his/her protestant men have taught him. Ronald N is a waste of your time...........But I appreciate your efforts to reveal the...

You do know that 2 Tim 3 is meant for pastors/church leaders/elders of the Church? Are YOU a pastor/church leader/elder? Your ignorance of Scripture is astounding............

You stick with YOUR interpretation of Scripture (or the interpretation that your Protestant men have taught you) instead of the interpretation of the men who were students of the Apostles..........You crack me up Mailmadman! Read that highlighted, underlined and in bold printing part: STUDENTS...

Good point mailmaddan. I did say 'your teaching'. But you left context out and in fairness so did I. In context, here is what you said: My teaching comes from the Bible which is more than 500 years old. That statement makes it sound like that YOU are reading the Bible and YOU are properly...

Lol...You crack me up ProDeo. Yes, you can have a normal discussion with me. But you aren't trying to discuss anything now, are you? You didn't address 1 single point in my post. If you wanted to have a discussion you would have quoted my entire post and responded to it. But you didn't, did...

Lol ProDeo.......Scripture wasn't "hidden from the people". The normal thing to say would be something like: I believe Scriptures were hidden from the people. Just because YOU believe it, doesn't make it true. Here is a history lesson on Scripture: Letters were written. It wasn't until 300...

I am well ProDeo.....Thank you. When one has the truth on their side they are always well. Soooooo if someone (Jesus in 33AD) says this IS xyz and about 30 years later another person (Paul in Corinthians) says it IS xyz and then 30 years later someone else (Ignatius who was taught by John)...