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  1. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d Very irritating. Is it here forbidden to post links or something? It is not about what I expect, it is about what God's prophets say the messiah will do. Here is something about that: Who and what is the messiah? Let us check according to the Holy Hebrew scriptures what the messiah is...
  2. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d The following prophecy is to be found there: "Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced.Psalm 22:16 Zechariah 12:10" For Psalm 22 look here: Psalm 22 Eng For Zech 12:10 look here: et asher
  3. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d Here is another prophecy from that page: "Messiah would be rejected by his own people. Psalm 69:8 Isaiah 53:3" Here something where I react on this page with 324 "messianic prophecies": http://www.hopeofisrael.net/ Psa. 69:4...Hated without a cause...Jn. 15:25 Psa. 69:8...A stranger...
  4. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d In the whole Tanach is no divine messiah to be found. We are looking for a messiah who is going to fulfill the messianic prophecies. So far nobody did that yet.
  5. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d An other "messianic prophecy" they bring there is "Messiah would spend a season in Egypt. Hosea 11:1" Here it is: "When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son." Now who is it that God calls "His son"? God is very clear about that: "‘This is what the Lord...
  6. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d The third prophecy there is this: "Messiah would be born of a virgin.Isaiah 7:14" Now the fact of the matter is, that prophecy doesn't exist. Nowhere in the Tanach is there a prophecy about a virgin giving birth. Just doesn't exist. If you want to know what is going on in Isaiah 7...
  7. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d The second prophecy there is this: "Messiah would be born in Bethlehem.Micah 5:2" Here is the messianic prophecy of Mica 5: Micha 5:2-9; "But thou Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in...
  8. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d The first prophecy there is the following: "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.” The claim is that the following verses are a messianic prophecy: "The LORD God said to the...
  9. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d No, I'm not going to fall for something like that, because I'm NEVER going to worship a human being. Worshiping a human is totally forbidden, it is idolatry. Only God may be worshiped. And God is not a human being: "God is not human, that he should lie" Num 23:19 "He who is the...
  10. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d So when I claim that I can forgive sins and that I will judge everybody on the last day, then I am automatically God? Because only God can do those things?
  11. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d Is everything that is written down automatically a fact?
  12. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d There are no prophecies in the Tanach that the messiah would die and be raised from the dead.
  13. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d So when somebody says: "I am the messiah", then the messiah has come?
  14. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d Is'nt that a bit simple, calling people who don't agree with you "blind"?
  15. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d Why do you call discussing an important theological subject "trolling"?
  16. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d In short it comes down to this: Your messiah didn't fulfill the messianic prophecies, and the claim that he was God leads the multitudes into idol worship. Because it is forbidden to worship a human being. For the finer details look here: removed
  17. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d If somebody claims to be the messiah, then he has to fulfill the messianic prophecies. If he doesn't do that, then we know he was not the messiah. After all, everybody can claim he is the messiah. There have been so many false messiahs already..... And your messiah didn't fulfill...
  18. Eliyahu613

    The messiah didn't come yet.

    Bs"d The messiah hasn't come yet. For the finer details look here: [removed]